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Thread: C-71 set for third reading Tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unexpected View Post
    Is there nothing the conservatives can do as far as getting them to have to do another review on the bill or is this really it?
    We'll just have to get them in power and find out! VOTE CPC!

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    So if I have a deposit in, can I just call in a pay the full amount?

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    Time to pay up.

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    I’ve read so much misinformation on this. In a nutshell, what does C-71 actually do?

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    Basically a new LGR and bye bye swiss arms and most 858's


    Quote Originally Posted by Donster 125 View Post
    I’ve read so much misinformation on this. In a nutshell, what does C-71 actually do?
    CCFR/NFA

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    And gives Quebec their LGR data for their LGR.
    And a few other things, such as ...
    - 5 year mention removed, although the CFOs are looking at your entire CFIS information anyway
    - makes every verify PALs for NR (not just see the PAL) and get a Reference Number to prove that they did (Buyer/SellerPAL,Date,Ref# to be kept forever by CFP),
    - vendors keep records for 20 years. If they go out-of-business that info is given to CFO
    - auto ATTs to gunsmiths and borders removed, but your ATT still covers delivering it to police for destruction, and ranges. Note that a Judge said that removing gunsmiths was a detriment to public safety
    - gets rid of the ability for the minister to name a firearm as non-restricted, but keeps the ability for the minister to name them as restricted and prohibited. This is 'sold' on the premise that only the RCMP know how to classify firearms and minister's don't and might act for political reasons. (like this whole bill)
    - Prohibits by Act the CZ858/SwissArms. Will require an Act (majority government, majority senate) to undo.



    Quote Originally Posted by Donster 125 View Post
    I’ve read so much misinformation on this. In a nutshell, what does C-71 actually do?

    SUMMARY
    Part 1 of this Act amends the Firearms Act to, among other things,
    (a) remove the reference to the five-year period, set out in subsection 5(2) of that Act, that applies to the mandatory consideration of certain eligibility criteria for holding a licence;
    (b) require, when a non-restricted firearm is transferred, that the transferee’s firearms licence be verified by the Registrar of Firearms and that businesses keep certain information related to the transfer; and
    (c) remove certain automatic authorizations to transport prohibited and restricted firearms.
    Part 1 also amends the Criminal Code to repeal the authority of the Governor in Council to prescribe by regulation that a prohibited or restricted firearm be a non-restricted firearm or that a prohibited firearm be a restricted firearm and, in consequence, the Part
    (a) repeals certain provisions of regulations made under the Criminal Code; and
    (b) amends the Firearms Act to grandfather certain individuals and firearms, including firearms previously prescribed as restricted or non-restricted firearms in those provisions.
    Furthermore, Part 1 amends section 115 of the Criminal Code to clarify that firearms and other things seized and detained by, or surrendered to, a peace officer at the time a prohibition order referred to in that section is made are forfeited to the Crown.
    Part 2, among other things,
    (a) amends the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act, by repealing the amendments made by the Economic Action Plan 2015 Act, No. 1, to retroactively restore the application of the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act to the records related to the registration of non-restricted firearms until the day on which this enactment receives royal assent;
    (b) provides that the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act continue to apply to proceedings that were initiated under those Acts before that day until the proceedings are finally disposed of, settled or abandoned; and
    (c) directs the Commissioner of Firearms to provide the minister of the Government of Quebec responsible for public security with a copy of such records, at that minister’s request.
    -- https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/e.../third-reading
    Last edited by rangebob; 05-08-2019 at 10:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATRS Shaun View Post
    a reference number is required for every sale either business to private individual, or private individual to private individual.
    Have been out of the loop for a bit on this bill, are they really expecting people to voluntarily enlist themselves into this not-registry during a private to private sale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drift1122 View Post
    Basically a new LGR and bye bye swiss arms and most 858's
    please stop spreading bull#### information,C=71 is nowhere near a LGR,,they're not even taking any firearm info,so much for the LGR fear mongering,

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    So all the cross country town hall meetings, senate meetings, surveys, emails, letters, e-petitions, phone calls and written submissions, the liberals being liberals will pass Bill-C71 completely unaltered? Echoes of the passing of the liberal Firearm Act of 1995. "We listened to Canadians from coast to coast to coast and in accordance with liberal ideology, we are going to pass this Bill into law. Have a nice day."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiskey1 View Post
    please stop spreading bull#### information,C=71 is nowhere near a LGR,,they're not even taking any firearm info,so much for the LGR fear mongering,
    Oh really, for what other purpose would they put this in place except to know who has what?

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