Gun laws, F/A uppers starting to ship out and where am I in the que?

The last 2 weeks have been crazy here. We are asking for everyone's assistance here.
The phone has been ringing off the hook with folks asking about C71. Guys we have no more info than you do as this "very transparent government" has yet to be in the least transparent with anyone. We have no inside knowledge on exactly what or how this stupid bit of useless legislation will affect any of us. What I can say is that a great many man hours are being wasted daily that could be used to QC, contact folks to advise them their parts are ready or ship them. However we can only single task, so answering the phones or listening to guys who are preaching to the choir only sets us back in production.

Same thing with the endless number of email inquiries as to "when do you think my upper or lower will ship?" replying to 50 or 60 of these emails daily kills alot of time that could be used for QC, contacting those whose parts are ready or shipping them.

PLEASE Understand that the second your parts are ready we WILL be contacting you, we want the balance of your deposit and to try and keep the number of boxes stacked up in shipping to a minimum.

We are a small shop with limited staff, so please try to work with us to keep production going smoothly and to help get as many sets out as we can per day. I would truly hate to institute a policy of you call to see when you run 3 set is ready which we clearly stated as spring 2020 you now go to the bottom of the significant pile of invoices.

Thank you!!

I did a build with them last year. though it was a few weeks longer than I was hoping for, they were very good at keeping me abreast of the situation. I would vouch for the fact that they contacted me the day my gun was done.

ATRS has been very accommodating and quick to respond when I needed to contact them about my order. The key word being NEED, like paying my balance or inquiring about getting their more recent upper design with my order because the old one has compatibility issues with one of the parts I bought. I'm tempted to bother them about when my order will be ready and the like just as much as anyone else, but every minute they spend on the phone or reading their inbox is a minute lost in actually getting this product into our hands. And I'd bet a good number of the questions being asked have already been answered somewhere in the threads ATRS has been keeping updated here on CGN anyway where someone could find it if they did their homework.

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What is the deal here? How did c71 affect the MS? now you have to record the sale and that's it?

Thank you

rally guy said:

What is the deal here? How did c71 affect the MS? now you have to record the sale and that's it?

Thank you

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I was in the shop on Friday for a brief visit and to pick up my FA upper. Shaun said that to the best of their knowledge sales after the implementation of C71 NR LGR they will be required to basically provide the CFC with all info the same as a restricted transfer less the serial number. But who needs a serial number when you have make, model, caliber, barrel length, etc.

For all intents and purposes, this is a complete return of the LGR on all transactions forward from the coming into force of the C71's LGR section.

onetwentyish said:

I was in the shop on Friday for a brief visit and to pick up my FA upper. Shaun said that to the best of their knowledge sales after the implementation of C71 NR LGR they will be required to basically provide the CFC with all info the same as a restricted transfer less the serial number. But who needs a serial number when you have make, model, caliber, barrel length, etc.

For all intents and purposes, this is a complete return of the LGR on all transactions forward from the coming into force of the C71's LGR section.

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Sorry but MS are not sold with a known calibre or barrel length.

So there's that...

Bfranklin said:

Sorry but MS are not sold with a known calibre or barrel length.

So there's that...

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Same as a bare AR15 lower. you're making it sound like you're OK with even mentioning to the CFC that there was a sale of something to someone, and i'm not sure why that is.

Youza.

Youzawhale said:

Same as a bare AR15 lower. you're making it sound like you're OK with even mentioning to the CFC that there was a sale of something to someone, and i'm not sure why that is.

Youza.

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Lol. You don't worry about me. I'm pretty entrenched in my anti-Liberal ways.

I was pointing out one of the fallacies of this legislation.

I've always been a bit confused with the batches and how they are staggered. For example you are starting lowers for all s/n after 223. So im assuming there is a pile of f/a uppers set aside ready to ship out once the lowers are done? Since the next batch of uppers isn't f/a.

rimlick said:

I've always been a bit confused with the batches and how they are staggered. For example you are starting lowers for all s/n after 223. So im assuming there is a pile of f/a uppers set aside ready to ship out once the lowers are done? Since the next batch of uppers isn't f/a.

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This is how I understand it, ATRS produced enough uppers on the last run for batch #2 of lowers.

rimlick said:

I've always been a bit confused with the batches and how they are staggered. For example you are starting lowers for all s/n after 223. So im assuming there is a pile of f/a uppers set aside ready to ship out once the lowers are done? Since the next batch of uppers isn't f/a.

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Seems like your aren't confused at all... That's exactly correct.

First run
Started lowers, finished uppers

Second run
Started uppers, finishes lowers

Third run
Will start lowers, will finish uppers

Basically doing it this way saves us a day or two of tearing machines down with each cycle.

Now somewhere in there we're going to be squeezing in a limited edition CCFR version, with custom engraving and fire control markings, but the exact time hasn't been finalized... And they're still drawing up the licensing agreement. Anybody who went to the CCFR agm or banquet got to see the early design artwork. no we aren't taking orders on those yet, need the licensing in place first. Just a heads up of what's coming down the pipe!

Ps. Tear down to switch to lowers for the second run starts tomorrow!

atrs shaun said:

seems like your aren't confused at all... That's exactly correct.

First run
started lowers, finished uppers

second run
started uppers, finishes lowers

third run
will start lowers, will finish uppers

basically doing it this way saves us a day or two of tearing machines down with each cycle.

Now somewhere in there we're going to be squeezing in a limited edition ccfr version, with custom engraving and fire control markings, but the exact time hasn't been finalized... And they're still drawing up the licensing agreement. Anybody who went to the ccfr agm or banquet got to see the early design artwork. no we aren't taking orders on those yet, need the licensing in place first. Just a heads up of what's coming down the pipe!

Ps. Tear down to switch to lowers for the second run starts tomorrow!

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omfg so excited!@%!#%

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I've saidit before and I'll say it now: ATRS guys are great when it comes to updates and transparency. Looking forward to receiving my set judging by these updates just about when Shaun predicted it would be ready.

How does one figure out the run number their order would be in?

arsenal69 said:

How does one figure out the run number their order would be in?

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Before April 16 2019 - 2nd run
After April 16 2019 - 3rd run

XLNC said:

Before April 16 2019 - 2nd run
After April 16 2019 - 3rd run

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And 1st run should have the receiver in your hand already, barring a couple of exceptions.

Anybody in second run watching this thread, if you have number 239, I’d love to swap with you. I have number 421, but 239 is my lucky number (ya I know it’s weird being a 3 digit number but it is what it is lol). Pm me or get at me on this thread if you’d be up for a swap. Fingers crossed guys, cheers.