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    Just think of all the 10/22 out there that have been modified with shorter barrel ... it doesnt make sense that if you buy an aftermarket barrel and a fixe stock for the gsg it make it prohibited ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillyrabbit View Post
    I disagree with that interpretation that swapping a factory part with a factory part creates a prohibited firearm. The 2 examples of alterations (sawing and cutting) indicate alterations as "modifies an existing" part. Otherwise anyone with a restricted AR-15 swapping from a long barrel to a short barrel creates a prohibited AR-15 (to refute a common rebuttal: if something is prohibited first it can't be restricted, so just because an AR-15 is prescribed restricted you can still make it a prohibited firearm), or if you have a regular old restricted 18" M1 carbine 36" OAL swapping to the paratrooper stock creates a prohibited firearm as it is about 25" OAL.
    The AR15 and any variant or modification is restricted by name.

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    So modifying an AR15 still keeps it Restricted. That’s not the case for the GSG 16, it appears anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danfizz View Post
    Ok and if you buy an aftermarket barrel,what could be happening ? if you get arrested and wanted to prove you bought it aftermarket ?
    You SPECIFICALLY SAID "you cant chop it yourself,you have to go trought a gunsmith to be legal". It doesn't matter who "chops" it. You can't chop it, nobody can "chop" it. That's the point.

    If you get arrested you can provide a receipt, point to the manufacturer's stamp on the barrel or show the barrel in a catalogue... that's the difference. I didn't make the law, it's stupid, yes. But that's what it says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_1982 View Post
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    In other words- it has to come from GSG with a shorter barrel and oal over 660mm to be kosher. Replacing the barrel is still a no no.
    Doesn't have to come from GSG. Look at the 10/22.. You can buy a 8" barrel from Dlask, and slap it on it. As long as the barrel is a manufactured to that length, not one cut down to length and for that gun. And you keep it 26" OAL, it's a NR. Back in the day there was 8" krinker plinker kits. 8" barrel with folding stocks,you could register it as a restricted and allow the stock to stay folded, or could pin the stock from closing and be a NR.

    So if say Dlask makes a 10" barrel for the GSG that is a drop in. You could slap it on, as long as you pin the stock to maintain 26", you're good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_1982 View Post
    The AR15 and any variant or modification is restricted by name.

    So modifying an AR15 still keeps it Restricted. That’s not the case for the GSG 16, it appears anyway.


    restricted firearm means

    (a) a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,

    (b) a firearm that

    (i) is not a prohibited firearm,

    (ii) has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and

    (iii) is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner,
    Otherwise a full auto AR-15 would be a restricted firearm, if what you are saying is that the prescribed restricted classification overrides a prohibited modification.

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    So the GSG 16's I'm seeing in this thread are the ATI imported ones to the US and not the ones Blue Line is importing to Canada correct? Only 1 mag and no adjustable trigger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewScot View Post
    So the GSG 16's I'm seeing in this thread are the ATI imported ones to the US and not the ones Blue Line is importing to Canada correct? Only 1 mag and no adjustable trigger?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chillyrabbit View Post
    Otherwise a full auto AR-15 would be a restricted firearm, if what you are saying is that the prescribed restricted classification overrides a prohibited modification.
    The laws are a MESS. But even the NFA has a page explaining just this. “The specific overides the general”. From my reading taking a 18.5” Roger 10/22 and putting a 16” barrel on it is prohibited. Now how anyone would prove you didn’t buy the 16” version in the first place.... It’s a rediculous mess of laws. AR15s stay restricted if you shorten the barrel but a .22 GSG 16 does not.

    https://nfa.ca/2005/02/25/barrel-and-firearms-lengths/
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