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Thread: Action: Gun Ban is a Western Alienation Issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Pill View Post
    I love the idea, but I live in Ontario and my MP is Liberal...Wish i could help on this..
    Still can! Anytime you can educate even though it will likely be met a big "MEH" from a form letter, it still matters. At this time we cannot waver as a group. We must push forward even though it feels like it over! I will be writing a few letters this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_1982 View Post
    We need to stick together. Don’t help screw over those of us stuck in Ontario just to save your own skins!
    Yes, we need to stick together.

    But, if we continue with the same failed tactics used for the past half century we will lose everything.

    Given that much of the impetus for continuing in that vein appears to be from the east, WEXIT is likely to mean that we stick with you in the same way we stick with other gun owners around the world.

    Half heartedly at best.
    - Gun Control is about making it unlawful for you to use, carry, or possess a firearm.
    - All restrictions/prohibitions must be repealed.
    - Middle ground? What middle ground?

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    Would it be possible to challenge C-71 on a provincial level?

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    I wont be happy until I can ccw

    We gotta shoot for the A zone boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by King0265 View Post
    Anyone think this whole brexit thing is a divide and conquer tactic?
    WEXIT seems like a grassroots movement. the kind governments try to keep under control. there is no tactics this early on in the formation of such a movement.
    most of my family is in Sask and AB, and those of us that are not there wish we were back home.
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    I believe premier Kenney of Alberta is quite aware of the separatist cauldron that he is sitting on. Kenney is a federalist, and I think he hates guns.

    Many citizens in Alberta think their province will turn into another Okotoks's where the federal police and army are unleashed upon their family and homes.

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    Definitely grassroots, which is great for Alberta separatists because with the provincial election 3 years out it will give enough time to organize (which is happening, all independence parties are merging as we speak).

    Also;

    It will give the current provincial gov't time to react and make necessary changes to keep the electorate happy, if not they risk the balance of power during the next election.

    Alberta is in a really good spot right now, and the best case for us is for Ottawa to continue on their same path of oppression of the west. That would only further unite us in the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartok5 View Post
    Western Alienation is not just a "hot topic", trust me on that. It is a very real and growing sentiment within the Western Provinces, namely Alberta and Saskatchewan. From my perspective as an Albertan firearms owner, the best way to prevent a ban has little to do with letter writing and is more realistically focused on Western regional secession from the remainder of Central and Eastern Canada (and presumably the Southern Coast of BC). Western separation is the clearest way that I can see to avoiding a ban not just for the next 4 years, but for the rest of my life and those of my children's children! Of course, the senitiments fuelling Western alienation within Canada have much more to do with economics, resource development, employment and associated standards of living than anything to do with firearms. What I am simply saying is that solving the larger problem will also solve the lesser problem of firearms bans. Such bans would not be entertained in the new, conservative-values Western Nation formerly known as Western Canada. Face it - the ideological gulf between the West and Central and Eastern Canada is simply too wide to address with empty platitudes. Westerners are independent-minded entrepreneurs who value hard work and desire responsible exploitation of their natural resources while they still have market value. Central and Eastern Liberals (not all Central and Eastern Canadians, but far too many) desire a socialist, utopian nanny-state that will address their every need through income-levelling and handouts at the expense of future generations. Painting with a broad brush? Yes, but the element of truth cannot be denied. We now have a "nation" of 3 solitudes - the West, Quebec, and whatever is left of Central and Eastern Canada. Confederation is a failure as regional imperatives (eg. economic survival) assume far more importance than any national aspiration. The current electoral map is a perfect "snap shot" of how Canadians from different regions view their world. Ideas, methods and desired outcomes are far, far different in Alberta than in the Maritimes these days. Empty platitudes regarding "National unity" aren't going to cut it this time. Unlike Quebec's constant game-playing, the West is not fvcking about. We want out. And we'll take our guns with us, thank-you very much!
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    In a meeting with Blair i told him any ban would inflame separatism. His answer was only me and one guy is Saskatoon have this opininion voiced so we are wrong.

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    Can the Premiere not invoke the not withstanding clause as it relates to firearms legislation and perhaps the carbon tax as well?

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