So where are we now?

[scout_289]

From reading the election analysis, this is what seems interesting:

Canada has seen the rise of the city states--like in Europe in the Middle Ages.
The population centres and knowledge industry and service jobs are
increasingly centred in just three places: Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver.

These are populations that are younger, more educated, ethnically diverse, and tolerant
socially of issues like gay marriage, abortion, and the environment.

You cannot win a majority government without winning a substantial number of these seats.
This is the political reality of Canada today.

The Conservative message is not resonating with voters in these areas. The CPC lost something like
37 of 50 seats in the Toronto area. Changing leaders would help, but would not solve the lack of appeal
of the party's platform to these voters.

So, this is where we are now. If the Conservatives want to win majorities they will have to do some serious
rethinking of their platform beyond smaller government and lower taxes--items that hold little interest
to voters of the the three biggest cities--according to polling done in the election by (if I remember correctly) the Globe and Mail.

This is a serious, long-term problem--the Conservative message is not selling. Can it change and still be conservative?
I don't know. But endless leadership changes alone, will not solve the systemic issues.

Best analysis of our predicament in a long time.

We need an revolution in our thinking, not an evolution. That begins with refining all of the traditional tools and adding some new ones like the gun lobby has done in the USA.

The CPC is our last "ally" but in order to win the urban vote they are going to have to move left and without some different approaches from us on offer to them they will eventually have to abandon us. We need to provide covering fire for them.

Ideas how to do that have been offered but ignored in the din of No Compromise but someday it will be evident that we missed our last real chance.

Something to think about. https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...ism-is-welcome change we must

[celichi]

From reading the election analysis, this is what seems interesting:

Canada has seen the rise of the city states--like in Europe in the Middle Ages.
The population centres and knowledge industry and service jobs are
increasingly centred in just three places: Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver.

These are populations that are younger, more educated, ethnically diverse, and tolerant
socially of issues like gay marriage, abortion, and the environment.

You cannot win a majority government without winning a substantial number of these seats.
This is the political reality of Canada today.

The Conservative message is not resonating with voters in these areas. The CPC lost something like
37 of 50 seats in the Toronto area. Changing leaders would help, but would not solve the lack of appeal
of the party's platform to these voters.

So, this is where we are now. If the Conservatives want to win majorities they will have to do some serious
rethinking of their platform beyond smaller government and lower taxes--items that hold little interest
to voters of the the three biggest cities--according to polling done in the election by (if I remember correctly) the Globe and Mail.

This is a serious, long-term problem--the Conservative message is not selling. Can it change and still be conservative?
I don't know. But endless leadership changes alone, will not solve the systemic issues.

I like what you said, it makes sense. Canada does not want to hear about stopping abortion or what you opinion on abortion is, don't go down this road ever again!!!

[scout_289]

"Stupidity is defined as doing the same things over and over while expecting a different result".

Read this and decide what we are doing differently today than we did 20 odd years ago: https://www.producer.com/1998/09/ant...nt-hill-rally/

And for those feeling a tad rebellious here's an org for you: http://www.cufoa.ca Resurrect it and save our guns.

[scout_289]

Here's a little gem that I wasn't aware of. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ele...tion-1.5345250

Could be used as a cudgel by us or against us? Makes the "Communication" part of our plan much more vital - watching what others say and what we say as well.

[captainamazing]

So anything in the AR style and handguns.


You're obviously a cop.

Point was he left a restricted weapon unattended in a open vehicle. Loaded.

OMG my cover is blown!
Its also illegal to walk around with a gun on your hip in public. The Police Act gives police the ability to do things like that so they dont need to unlock their pistol cases, locate their ammo, load the mags and find the key for their trigger locks when things get dicey.

If people want to find examples of hypocrisy in our government that wasnt the best example. Turdeau gets the security of armed protection 24/7. Because hes rich and important. We get to call police AFTER we get robbed/raped/assaulted, because protecting ourselves with guns is bad, unless you are rich. That is hypocrisy.

[trapoholic]

OMG my cover is blown!
Its also illegal to walk around with a gun on your hip in public. The Police Act gives police the ability to do things like that so they dont need to unlock their pistol cases, locate their ammo, load the mags and find the key for their trigger locks when things get dicey.

If people want to find examples of hypocrisy in our government that wasnt the best example. Turdeau gets the security of armed protection 24/7. Because hes rich and important. We get to call police AFTER we get robbed/raped/assaulted, because protecting ourselves with guns is bad, unless you are rich. That is hypocrisy.

All I'm saying is he left the windows of the cruiser wide open and walked the 30 yards into the gas station to pay. That was wrong.

As far as not being able to defend my family and home. Come try and harm them and see what happens. Your odds are absolute zero, you're not walking away.

[IvoB]

This chit has got to stop - Hollywood North is glorifying mass tragedies someone with a twisted mind may think hey this will be cool:

Metrolinx performs largest disaster simulation at Union Station Sunday overnight
The simulation which involved an assailant with an automatic weapon, a fire on the train platform, 150 volunteer actors and multiple casualties was the largest, most complex exercise ever held at Union Station.

^^^a headline in the Hamilton Spectator online^^^

Just what we need right now more fuel for the fire

[scout_289]

One thing that we have to here if we are going to save our guns is to overcome "cancel culture": https://www.cbc.ca/radio/checkup/has...says-1.5345798

If a poster doesn't have the cojones for outright rebellion acts or can't bring themselves to post in the manner that reflects "how we roll here" they are snuffed out.

The "snuffies" move on to other things and the "snuffers" are left to play until the results come home to roost and they end up drinking their bathwater.

Give free and unfettered debate of new ideas a chance. Many newbies coming on here and we should encourage their thoughts along different lines that haven't been tried yet.

I think that is what Wolverine is looking for more than a rehash of why we think the Liberals are bad along with the usual howling at the moon.

[scout_289]

This chit has got to stop - Hollywood North is glorifying mass tragedies someone with a twisted mind may think hey this will be cool:

Metrolinx performs largest disaster simulation at Union Station Sunday overnight
The simulation which involved an assailant with an automatic weapon, a fire on the train platform, 150 volunteer actors and multiple casualties was the largest, most complex exercise ever held at Union Station.

^^^a headline in the Hamilton Spectator online^^^

Just what we need right now more fuel for the fire

So what do we do about it???

How about countering that with a headline like "Canadian gun owners join CMHA and Veterans Affairs in a massive effort to reduce suicide from all causes and an emphasis on helping those who served resulting in PTSD as a hidden wound"?

[Vishnu]

I sincerely hope/wish the NFA, CSSA, CCFR would get together and organize protests.
Sadly though, the media would warp it into a bunch of red necks protesting.