December 10th 2019 update

[Bfranklin]

It’s the vague answers that I find concerning , you’d think if it was that simple they would just say that . The lack of any real update is also concerning. I think a actual update for those of us still waiting

I want to trust them, but this is the vagueness that concerns me:

Specific elements of run #2 are the only hold up right now, it's not relevant to run #3 as we are already making the lowers for third run right now.

I won't carry on, but there is more to this that we don't know, and I assume for a good reason.

[Razer]

I want to trust them, but this is the vagueness that concerns me:



I won't carry on, but there is more to this that we don't know, and I assume for a good reason.

Something tells me that its specific builds or items that didn't pass QC that are getting re-worked.

Shaun and all the other fine folks at ATRS are always an open book when it comes to providing updates and being honest with customers. That's my personal experience (which included custom ordered parts which were delayed by another manufacturer etc.), so I'd have no qualms with ordering from them again.

[alberta tactical rifle]

It’s the vague answers that I find concerning , you’d think if it was that simple they would just say that . The lack of any real update is also concerning. I think a actual update for those of us still waiting

Not vague answers. Short of basically halting production in order to manually go through literally thousands of guys paperwork then spend likely a week or more matching all of the paperwork to each lower and then match it to an upper it is impossible to say exactly when each order will be ready to ship. Then the uproar would begin about how much further things are behind. We can't win either way. We try to be open and transparent but it seems it is never enough for some guys.

Having 1 mill down that is dedicated to final finish machining of uppers has set us back. The hold up now on run 2 sets is that the uppers were only 90% finished when the mill went down. Some companies would have simply skipped this step and blasted the tool marks off so they were less visible, this is NOT how we roll. I would rather be late but ship as close to perfection as possible than ship out mediocre parts which is why I refuse to outsource.

I braved the weather and cold yesterday to run another 90 uppers for anodizing that should take care of all of the F/A sets. SS sets will be longer as we did not anticipate the volume of guys who ordered multiple uppers in run 1.

[alberta tactical rifle]

Something tells me that its specific builds or items that didn't pass QC that are getting re-worked.

Shaun and all the other fine folks at ATRS are always an open book when it comes to providing updates and being honest with customers. That's my personal experience (which included custom ordered parts which were delayed by another manufacturer etc.), so I'd have no qualms with ordering from them again.

There certainly are some that needed to be remade. The joys of production machining is that when a machine has an issue rather than just 1 or 2 parts getting destroyed now it becomes anywhere from 8 to 16 parts.

[EastCoastLowbedder]

Not vague answers. Short of basically halting production in order to manually go through literally thousands of guys paperwork then spend likely a week or more matching all of the paperwork to each lower and then match it to an upper it is impossible to say exactly when each order will be ready to ship. Then the uproar would begin about how much further things are behind. We can't win either way. We try to be open and transparent but it seems it is never enough for some guys.

Having 1 mill down that is dedicated to final finish machining of uppers has set us back. The hold up now on run 2 sets is that the uppers were only 90% finished when the mill went down. Some companies would have simply skipped this step and blasted the tool marks off so they were less visible, this is NOT how we roll. I would rather be late but ship as close to perfection as possible than ship out mediocre parts which is why I refuse to outsource.

I braved the weather and cold yesterday to run another 90 uppers for anodizing that should take care of all of the F/A sets. SS sets will be longer as we did not anticipate the volume of guys who ordered multiple uppers in run 1.

Does this mean your still shipping run #1 SS uppers ?

[Bfranklin]

Not vague answers. Short of basically halting production in order to manually go through literally thousands of guys paperwork then spend likely a week or more matching all of the paperwork to each lower and then match it to an upper it is impossible to say exactly when each order will be ready to ship. Then the uproar would begin about how much further things are behind. We can't win either way. We try to be open and transparent but it seems it is never enough for some guys.

Having 1 mill down that is dedicated to final finish machining of uppers has set us back. The hold up now on run 2 sets is that the uppers were only 90% finished when the mill went down. Some companies would have simply skipped this step and blasted the tool marks off so they were less visible, this is NOT how we roll. I would rather be late but ship as close to perfection as possible than ship out mediocre parts which is why I refuse to outsource.

I braved the weather and cold yesterday to run another 90 uppers for anodizing that should take care of all of the F/A sets. SS sets will be longer as we did not anticipate the volume of guys who ordered multiple uppers in run 1.

Thanks for that.

[alberta tactical rifle]

The one to the question I asked , an estimate to when run#2 will be completed so I can know when all get the product I paid for a year ago

Apart from a few lowers we had to remake all of run 2 lowers are done. Next week the rest of run 2 F/A uppers will be back from anodizing so will start to ship out with the lowers as soon as we can get them matched, packed and shipped. We are still working on SS uppers for run 2 due to the finish mill going down, an exact ETA to completion is not available.
Maybe if we knew who odie89 really was we could look up his paperwork and provide a better answer, but we do not have an order for anyone named odie89.

[Ryang5177]

Or “odie89” could grow up and learn some gd patience. Then we can all get our stuff a little sooner instead of having to look up his paper work.

[StockHausen]

I'd rather wait a little more and get pure ATRS quality than get something with machining marks on it! Thanks for the update!

[AMET]

I'd rather wait a little more and get pure ATRS quality than get something with machining marks on it! Thanks for the update!

+1 that's why I decided to wait and get a quality MS rather than a SLR

ATRS has never let me down so far.