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    As of this post, we are almost at 99,000 signatures. I exhausted ask all my family and friends verbally. What i did was go on Facebook and each of my Canadian friends, I sent an individual PM starting off something personal to them (Happy New year, congrates on new baby, wedding, vacation, etc) then added:

    "sorry to bug you but am just covering all my bases. I'm asking all my FB gun friendly buddies to confirm they have signed the ePetition which is against the federal government trying to slip in an Order in Council (OIC) to ban certain firearms without going through the democratic process of debate in the House of Commons. We are trying to get over 100,000 signatures before 27 January when they sit back in HOC. If you have signed it already, thank you. Please ask your Canadian friends & family to sign, too. They already know how upset you are with Trudeau's Liberals wanting to ban our legally acquired firearms. Thanks again! http://e2341.ca/ "

    This generated another dozen signatures for 1 in 4 success rate. Go ahead and copy & paste this. Thanks
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    ive signed but i honestly think the dick head is just going to follow through with what they said. i bet it gets read to king jt and ignored all within 5 minutes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fordtrucks View Post
    ive signed but i honestly think the dick head is just going to follow through with what they said. i bet it gets read to king jt and ignored all within 5 minutes....
    I don't know but I've read there are a lot of liberal MP's not happy with trudeau's plans because a lot of people in their ridings are very unhappy about this. I guess we'll see.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqson View Post
    I don't know but I've read there are a lot of liberal MP's not happy with trudeau's plans because a lot of people in their ridings are very unhappy about this. I guess we'll see.....
    At least one this month (Marcus Powlowski)
    https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-of-gun-owners

    The gun control debate moved from proposal to legislation in early 1995. On February 14, Rock introduced Bill C-68 in the Commons. The next few months would test the Liberals as nothing else had. This single issue moved them from soaring, 80-percent approval ratings to low 50’s. some of them whispered, some uttered directly - that the MPs who opposed gun control weren’t real Liberals anyway and the caucus would be better off without them. Neither Rock nor Shaughnessy said this aloud to the dissenters, but Iftody described the justice minister as "remarkably insensitive" to the political damage he was causing with gun control. He said Rock would regularly report to his caucus the accolades he was receiving in Toronto for his stand. The rural MPs would mutter in their seats, "How brave of you, when you’re not paying the price."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqson View Post
    I don't know but I've read there are a lot of liberal MP's not happy with trudeau's plans because a lot of people in their ridings are very unhappy about this. I guess we'll see.....
    Liberal caucus divided over handgun, assault rifle ban
    The rift is between MPs who represent rural electoral districts, or small city ridings in rural areas, and incumbents representing large city and urban electoral districts, one veteran Liberal told iPolitics.
    Jun 12, 2019
    https://ipolitics.ca/2019/06/12/libe...ult-rifle-ban/




    At the end of the "Upcoming gun bill ‘scaring the hell out of the Liberal caucus,’ and Trudeau’s response to Harvey’s concerns puts a chill on backbenchers, say Liberals"
    https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/03/12...rns-put/137000
    has some of them. Certainly the most concerned of them.

    Rural/Urban and Urban/Rural Ridings won by 5 per cent or less, 2015 election:

    Riding name Province Winner Party Riding type 2015 margin of victory
    St. John’s East Nfld. Nick Whalen Liberal U/R 1.4%
    Fundy Royal N.B Alaina Lockhart Liberal R/U 3.8%
    Beloeil-Chambly Que. Matthew Dubé NDP U/R 1.7%
    Pierre-Boucher-Les Patriotes-Vercheres Que. Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc U/R 0.4%
    Chicoutimi-Le Fjord Que. Denis Lemieux Liberal U/R 1.4%
    Jonquiere Que. Karine Trudel NDP U/R 0.7%
    Lac-Saint Jean Que. Denis Lebel Conservative U/R 4.8%
    Laurentides-Labelle Que. David Graham Liberal U/R 2.4%
    Mirabel Que. Simon Marcil Bloc U/R 1.4%
    Montmagny-L’Islet-Kamouraska-Riviere-du-Loup Que. Bernard Généroux Conservative R/U 0.6%
    Riviere-du-Nord Que. Rhéal Fortin Bloc U/R 1.9%
    Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot Que. Brigitte Sansoucy NDP U/R 1.1%
    Saint-Jean Que. Jean Rioux Liberal U/R 4.1%
    Salaberry-Suroit Que. Anne Minh-Thu Quach NDP U/R 1.3%
    Barrie-Springwater-Oro-Medonte Ont. Alex Nuttall Conservative U/R 0.2%
    Cambridge Ont. Bryan May Liberal U/R 4.5%
    Chatham-Kent-Leamington Ont. Dave Van Kesteren Conservative R/U 4.5%
    Hastings-Lennox and Addington Ont. Mike Bossio Liberal R/U 0.5%
    Kenora Ont. Bob Nault Liberal R/U 1.6%
    King-Vaughan Ont. Deb Schulte Liberal U/R 3.2%
    Kitchener-Conestoga Ont. Harold Albrecht Conservative R/U 0.5%
    Nickel Belt Ont. Marc Serré Liberal U/R 5%
    Northumberland-Peterborough South Ont. Kim Rudd Liberal R/U 3%
    Parry Sound-Muskoka Ont. Tony Clement Conservative R/U 4.4%
    Simcoe North Ont. Bruce Stanton Conservative R/U 3.7%
    Churchill-Keewatinook Aski Man. Niki Ashton NDP R/U 3%
    Kildonan-St. Paul Man. MaryAnn Mihychuk Liberal U/R 2.8%
    Desnethé-Missinippi-Churchill River Sask. Georgina Jolibois NDP R/U 0.3%
    Regina-Lewvan Sask. Erin Weir NDP U/R 0.3%
    Central Okanagan-Similkameen-Nicola B.C. Dan Albas Conservative U/R 2.4%
    Kootenay-Columbia B.C. Wayne Stetski NDP U/R 0.4%
    Mission–Matsqui-Fraser Canyon B.C. Jati Sidhu Liberal U/R 2.3%
    Pitt Meadows-Maple Ridge B.C. Dan Ruimy Liberal U/R 2.5%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Mike View Post
    As of this post, we are almost at 99,000 signatures. I exhausted ask all my family and friends verbally. What i did was go on Facebook and each of my Canadian friends, I sent an individual PM starting off something personal to them (Happy New year, congrates on new baby, wedding, vacation, etc) then added:

    "sorry to bug you but am just covering all my bases. I'm asking all my FB gun friendly buddies to confirm they have signed the ePetition which is against the federal government trying to slip in an Order in Council (OIC) to ban certain firearms without going through the democratic process of debate in the House of Commons. We are trying to get over 100,000 signatures before 27 January when they sit back in HOC. If you have signed it already, thank you. Please ask your Canadian friends & family to sign, too. They already know how upset you are with Trudeau's Liberals wanting to ban our legally acquired firearms. Thanks again! http://e2341.ca/ "

    This generated another dozen signatures for 1 in 4 success rate. Go ahead and copy & paste this. Thanks
    I have done the same. It's ok to be passionate about democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangebob View Post
    Liberal caucus divided over handgun, assault rifle ban
    The rift is between MPs who represent rural electoral districts, or small city ridings in rural areas, and incumbents representing large city and urban electoral districts, one veteran Liberal told iPolitics.
    Jun 12, 2019
    https://ipolitics.ca/2019/06/12/libe...ult-rifle-ban/




    At the end of the "Upcoming gun bill ‘scaring the hell out of the Liberal caucus,’ and Trudeau’s response to Harvey’s concerns puts a chill on backbenchers, say Liberals"
    https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/03/12...rns-put/137000
    has some of them. Certainly the most concerned of them.

    Rural/Urban and Urban/Rural Ridings won by 5 per cent or less, 2015 election:

    Riding name Province Winner Party Riding type 2015 margin of victory
    St. John’s East Nfld. Nick Whalen Liberal U/R 1.4%
    Fundy Royal N.B Alaina Lockhart Liberal R/U 3.8%
    Beloeil-Chambly Que. Matthew Dubé NDP U/R 1.7%
    Pierre-Boucher-Les Patriotes-Vercheres Que. Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc U/R 0.4%
    Chicoutimi-Le Fjord Que. Denis Lemieux Liberal U/R 1.4%
    Jonquiere Que. Karine Trudel NDP U/R 0.7%
    Lac-Saint Jean Que. Denis Lebel Conservative U/R 4.8%
    Laurentides-Labelle Que. David Graham Liberal U/R 2.4%
    Mirabel Que. Simon Marcil Bloc U/R 1.4%
    Montmagny-L’Islet-Kamouraska-Riviere-du-Loup Que. Bernard Généroux Conservative R/U 0.6%
    Riviere-du-Nord Que. Rhéal Fortin Bloc U/R 1.9%
    Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot Que. Brigitte Sansoucy NDP U/R 1.1%
    Saint-Jean Que. Jean Rioux Liberal U/R 4.1%
    Salaberry-Suroit Que. Anne Minh-Thu Quach NDP U/R 1.3%
    Barrie-Springwater-Oro-Medonte Ont. Alex Nuttall Conservative U/R 0.2%
    Cambridge Ont. Bryan May Liberal U/R 4.5%
    Chatham-Kent-Leamington Ont. Dave Van Kesteren Conservative R/U 4.5%
    Hastings-Lennox and Addington Ont. Mike Bossio Liberal R/U 0.5%
    Kenora Ont. Bob Nault Liberal R/U 1.6%
    King-Vaughan Ont. Deb Schulte Liberal U/R 3.2%
    Kitchener-Conestoga Ont. Harold Albrecht Conservative R/U 0.5%
    Nickel Belt Ont. Marc Serré Liberal U/R 5%
    Northumberland-Peterborough South Ont. Kim Rudd Liberal R/U 3%
    Parry Sound-Muskoka Ont. Tony Clement Conservative R/U 4.4%
    Simcoe North Ont. Bruce Stanton Conservative R/U 3.7%
    Churchill-Keewatinook Aski Man. Niki Ashton NDP R/U 3%
    Kildonan-St. Paul Man. MaryAnn Mihychuk Liberal U/R 2.8%
    Desnethé-Missinippi-Churchill River Sask. Georgina Jolibois NDP R/U 0.3%
    Regina-Lewvan Sask. Erin Weir NDP U/R 0.3%
    Central Okanagan-Similkameen-Nicola B.C. Dan Albas Conservative U/R 2.4%
    Kootenay-Columbia B.C. Wayne Stetski NDP U/R 0.4%
    Mission–Matsqui-Fraser Canyon B.C. Jati Sidhu Liberal U/R 2.3%
    Pitt Meadows-Maple Ridge B.C. Dan Ruimy Liberal U/R 2.5%
    This may be part of the reason they want to use an OIC and not debate this issue in Parliament.
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