New German Made MARPAT, Alice Packs.

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We were very impressed by the quality of these packs and the low price made these sell out very quickly. We put in a second much larger order of these that is on the way to us now. We expect the shipment to arrive within 2 weeks. We are offering $30.00 off the regular price ($129.95) for advanced orders placed prior to the arrival.

The Albanian Armed Forces commissioned these brand new Alice packs to be produced in Germany, but the deal never went through. With a MARPAT style multi-cam digital camo, sturdy shoulder and waist straps, six exterior pouches and a heavy-duty metal Alice frame, this pack is ready for adventure and now in the hands of civilians.

They measure 19" tall, 15" wide, and 11" deep and weigh in at only 6 lbs.

Features

Heavy-duty Alice Frame
Secure Waist Belt
Three Large Exterior Pouches
Three Small Exterior Pouches
Multi-Cam Digital Pattern
Secure Strap Closures
 
Can you confirm that they are made in Germany? only thing I found online is that they are from an Albanian contract that fell through.

no mention of manufacture.
 
For those of us not up on pack technology, what is the benefit of the metal frame?
Does it allow you to carry weight more comfortably than a soft pack?
 
For those of us not up on pack technology, what is the benefit of the metal frame?
Does it allow you to carry weight more comfortably than a soft pack?

A lot of guys still swear by these packs, but to be honest they’re pretty archaic. A solid metal external frame will technically support more weight, but the way these packs transfer that weight to your shoulders and hips is awful.
Virtually nobody who knows what they’re doing and has money is using these in an operational role. They’ve all been replaced by mystery ranch, kifaru, eberlestock, arcteryx, and countless other brands who make real modern backpacks.
I’ve got a couple old Alice packs myself, but they sit in the basement while I take out my modern bags.
 
A lot of guys still swear by these packs, but to be honest they’re pretty archaic. A solid metal external frame will technically support more weight, but the way these packs transfer that weight to your shoulders and hips is awful.
Virtually nobody who knows what they’re doing and has money is using these in an operational role. They’ve all been replaced by mystery ranch, kifaru, eberlestock, arcteryx, and countless other brands who make real modern backpacks.
I’ve got a couple old Alice packs myself, but they sit in the basement while I take out my modern bags.

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A lot of guys still swear by these packs, but to be honest they’re pretty archaic. A solid metal external frame will technically support more weight, but the way these packs transfer that weight to your shoulders and hips is awful.
Virtually nobody who knows what they’re doing and has money is using these in an operational role. They’ve all been replaced by mystery ranch, kifaru, eberlestock, arcteryx, and countless other brands who make real modern backpacks.
I’ve got a couple old Alice packs myself, but they sit in the basement while I take out my modern bags.

Come on man.

Current usmc issue is the filbe. Thats an external frame.

Mystery ranch, lot of the mil stuff will use their nice frame, which is pretty much an external frame.

So no this deisgn is not only, not deprecated, its essentially still current issue
 
Can you confirm that they are made in Germany?

There is no labeling on the inside of the bags. Allot of Euro items to not have labeling like the US gear (NSN numbers). We are going by the information provided from our contact who purchased the entire lot. Will ask them again on Monday.
 
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Come on man.

Current usmc issue is the filbe. Thats an external frame.

Mystery ranch, lot of the mil stuff will use their nice frame, which is pretty much an external frame.

So no this deisgn is not only, not deprecated, its essentially still current issue

Maybe I wasn’t clear. External frames have a place, and are still commonly used in high end bags. And these modern bags perform very well. A stock ALICE pack on the other hand, is absolutely antiquated. And none of these manufacturers are using stock ALICE frames either. Many of them (down east, eberlestock) are using frames that are the same size and based on ALICE dimensions, but certainly not stock frames.
 
Come on man.

Current usmc issue is the filbe. Thats an external frame.

Mystery ranch, lot of the mil stuff will use their nice frame, which is pretty much an external frame.

So no this deisgn is not only, not deprecated, its essentially still current issue

Spoken like a dude that has never rucked an alice pack. You comparison is like saying a modle T and a lexus are the same thing because they both have 4 wheels. Comparing an alice pack to mystery ranch is laughable

Shawn
 
alice pack are not the best for sure but the first year and season i guided for barrenground caribou i was glad to have the frame to haul that meat. the reason im asking about them is if they re built like the older one they will make very good pack and very strong. not the best but for the price maybe hard to beat.
 
Spoken like a dude that has never rucked an alice pack. You comparison is like saying a modle T and a lexus are the same thing because they both have 4 wheels. Comparing an alice pack to mystery ranch is laughable

Shawn

at 10 or 15x more expensive the MR have to be better ...
 
at 10 or 15x more expensive the MR have to be better ...

There is absolutely no comparison. ALICE weight hangs on your shoulder....exactly where it’s not supposed to. MR and other properly designed packs, the weight transfers to the hips where it’s supposed to.
 
so what is the note from the jury on those bags: are they worth it?

I’d say if you’re dead set on an ALICE pack, look elsewhere. These don’t even look like they use US milspec materials, judging from the pics.
 
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