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    I'm curious as to how many were shipped to stores by Gravel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camp Cook View Post
    I'm curious as to how many were shipped to stores by Gravel?
    I don't think many - I Run Guns brought in a couple under the CP (pistol version) in the US, that with a non folding stock were canada legal. Went fast. I'm not sure if any were released in canada before Remington filed.

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    I passed on a spike blacktail buck yesterday morning was rewarded for it by this guy poking his head out at appr 140 yards at 9am in heavy rain this morning I was just below the snow line.

    Yes the Rem 700 PCR short rifle in 308 Win loaded with Win 150gr Power Points this time did its job again.

    It's now time to get my act together and start reloading for this short rifle going to go with 150gr SST's and IMR3031 powder hoping to get 2500fps and coyote season is on so will need some 110gr V-Max loads for coyotes.

    Yes I like this rifle it is super cool and accurate enough for my needs I can hunt with it but also set it up for a super fast handling camp gun I can shoot from 110gr - 200gr bullets in it.

    Due to a major hearing loss when I was a child and subsequent aditional loss over my 61 years of being exposed to loud noises I never shoot a firearm without hearing protection on.

    In cooler weather I wear electronic ear muffs warmer weather I wear Magnum Ear electronic molded hearing aids only need one due to a total hearing loss in my left ear.

    Last edited by Camp Cook; 11-14-2020 at 06:06 AM.
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    Nice! Short seems handy for the bush.

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    Hope these tables work here are some Quickload data curtesy of Todbartel for the 12.5" barrel in 308 Win

    Cartridge : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
    Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler Accubond 52165
    Useable Case Capaci: 49.073 grain H2O = 3.186 cm³
    Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.700 inch = 68.58 mm
    Barrel Length : 12.5 inch = 317.5 mm

    Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
    Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
    or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %
    These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
    C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
    loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
    that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
    and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
    USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

    85 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
    Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
    % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
    --------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Alliant AR-Comp 102.7 45.0 2.91 2730 100.0 62000 15222 0.660 ! Near Maximum !
    Winchester 748 99.1 48.2 3.13 2705 93.9 62000 16028 0.660 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon CFE223 101.0 50.9 3.30 2703 91.1 62000 16216 0.657 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon BL-C2 101.4 50.1 3.24 2686 92.3 62000 16084 0.666 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon H322 99.7 43.8 2.84 2680 97.1 62000 15245 0.664 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon H335 94.0 46.4 3.01 2671 95.9 62000 15400 0.666 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon H4895 103.3 46.7 3.03 2671 91.8 62000 15844 0.669 ! Near Maximum !
    Alliant Reloder-10x 97.1 41.4 2.69 2660 99.4 62000 14720 0.676 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 8208 XBR 101.7 46.0 2.98 2649 92.9 62000 15219 0.667 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 4198 96.5 39.2 2.54 2644 99.8 62000 13768 0.664 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 3031 104.0 44.0 2.85 2632 96.6 55516 15553 0.690 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 4895 104.0 47.0 3.05 2621 89.5 57861 15772 0.686 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon Benchmark 100.6 44.8 2.90 2620 94.0 62000 14634 0.671 ! Near Maximum !
    Alliant Reloder-7 91.2 39.9 2.59 2620 99.7 62000 13867 0.680 ! Near Maximum !
    Ramshot X-Terminator 98.5 47.5 3.08 2620 90.8 62000 14901 0.671 ! Near Maximum !
    Ramshot TAC 100.8 49.1 3.18 2616 86.8 62000 15017 0.669 ! Near Maximum !
    Alliant Reloder-15 104.0 47.0 3.05 2585 88.1 56664 15365 0.692 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon VARGET 104.0 45.5 2.95 2500 86.9 53437 14164 0.703


    Cartridge : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
    Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler AccuBond 56719
    Useable Case Capaci: 47.945 grain H2O = 3.113 cm³
    Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
    Barrel Length : 12.5 inch = 317.5 mm

    Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
    Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
    or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 104 %
    These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
    C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
    loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
    that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
    and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
    USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

    86 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
    Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
    % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
    --------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
    IMR 3031 103.4 42.7 2.77 2507 99.3 62000 15577 0.720 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon CFE223 97.4 48.0 3.11 2500 94.0 62000 16179 0.713 ! Near Maximum !
    Alliant AR-Comp 98.4 42.1 2.73 2494 100.0 62000 14443 0.721 ! Near Maximum !
    Winchester 748 95.3 45.3 2.94 2492 96.4 62000 15799 0.717 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 4895 102.5 45.3 2.94 2483 93.7 62000 16147 0.724 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon BL-C2 97.7 47.1 3.05 2480 95.1 62000 15969 0.723 ! Near Maximum !
    Alliant Reloder-15 103.3 45.6 2.96 2471 92.8 62000 15923 0.724 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon H4895 99.6 44.0 2.85 2466 94.5 62000 15712 0.726 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon H322 96.0 41.2 2.67 2463 98.8 62000 14844 0.722 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon H335 90.6 43.7 2.83 2460 97.9 62000 15102 0.724 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 8208 XBR 98.1 43.4 2.81 2444 95.5 62000 15059 0.724 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon H380 104.0 47.0 3.04 2438 90.5 61278 15572 0.729 ! Near Maximum !
    Alliant Reloder-10x 93.4 38.9 2.52 2438 100.0 62000 14094 0.736 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 4320 104.0 45.2 2.93 2437 92.8 59742 15179 0.721 ! Near Maximum !
    Ramshot TAC 97.5 46.5 3.01 2424 90.1 62000 15100 0.724 ! Near Maximum !
    Ramshot X-Terminator 95.2 44.9 2.91 2422 93.7 62000 14850 0.727 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon Benchmark 97.2 42.3 2.74 2417 96.4 62000 14451 0.728 ! Near Maximum !
    Hodgdon VARGET 104.0 44.5 2.88 2400 91.9 59360 14842 0.732 ! Near Maximum !
    IMR 4166 Enduron 104.0 44.0 2.85 2328 86.3 57431 14067 0.748 ! Near Maximum !


    Apples to apples, 125gr vs 150gr in 12.5" 308

    125gr, avg speed of top six fastest powders = 2695 fps

    150gr, avg speed of top six = 2495 fps

    125gr BC .327 (Bryan Litz), 150gr BC .397 (Litz)

    When both sighted in +2" high at 100y :

    200y
    125gr - 2202 fps, 1346 ft lbs, Point of impact = 0.0"
    150gr - 2103 fps, 1472 ft lbs, POI = -0.7" low

    300y
    125gr - 1977 fps, 1085 ft lbs, POI = -9.0" low
    150gr - 1921 fps, 1229 ft lbs, POI = -11.1" low

    400y
    125gr - 1767 fps, 866 ft lbs, POI = -26.7" low
    150gr - 1750 fps, 1000 ft lbs, POI = -30.7" low
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    How big's your new gun? About as big as a squash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lpeto View Post
    Missed all these .308 at Cabelas. Now want one , have the cash and can’t get one!
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    Yes me too!!
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    Still looking for a 308 SBR if anyone knows where to buy one ... appreciate it.
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    ME too !!!!!!!
    Did any of you guys find any other sources for this firearm? Would love to order one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gurpgork View Post
    Did any of you guys find any other sources for this firearm? Would love to order one.
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    Nothing so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifleman338 View Post

    Here's mine with a Tikka T3X action, 12.5" IBI in 308WIN.
    Build your own like this guy's. That's what I'm gonna do!

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