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    Doing their part

    First time ordering from TNA, I felt that an honourable mention should go out to them. I just received my order and upon opening it I discover a "pre addressed" envelope to my local MP and a letter requesting if I could take a few minutes to write them. Awesome!, thank you to Zach and the entire TNA team, for doing your part. I would be honored and privileged to send the letter and support you and the community as a whole. Just added another Buisness to the "buy from them again list" HOOYA!

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    TNA makes it way too easy to spend your money there... Nothing but amazing service from them.

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    I got that in my order as well. TNA is awesome!!!!

    (and yes, I put a letter in the envelope and sent it)
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    Once again TY, As promised my letter/email to my MP Helena Jaczek, email sent letter in the mail first thing tomorrow.


    The Hon. Helena Jaczek
    P.C., M.P.
    House of Commons
    Ottawa, Ontario
    K1A 0A6


    Dear Hon. Member of Parliament,

    Justine Trudeau and the Liberal government have announced in their throne speech and promised to ban and confiscate so called "military style weapons" including the AR-15 from people like myself who are law abiding, tax paying owners that are vetted by the RCMP/CSIS on a 24/7 365 supposedly to enhance public safety.

    They have ignored the evidence that gun bans are ineffective from Firearms experts, Chiefs of Police across the Country, Police Unions, and Head of the RCMP. As well as many voices of people through their consultations and petitions opposing said ban, the Liberals intend to do it anyways wasting millions (aka billions) just like their last "long gun" registry debacle that ended up costing the taxpayer billions instead of millions as they calculated. Like the budget balancing itself.

    With absolutely "zero" reductions in criminal gang activity and "zero" results for public safety, why the Liberal government chooses to go down this path of immorality and unethical behaviour again is absolutely mind boggling, it needs to be scrutinized and study not applauded,supported, and pushed through by OIC without a "Democratic process".

    When a common sense approach would see that the money wasted on buying back personal property from "non criminals" would be better spent on social programs, health care, border security, police services support, social housing, and drug addiction programs. As a physician I am more than sure you would agree and appreciate the clarity.

    The Liberals are calling it a "buyback", which means they will take my personal property under the threat of prison, and use my tax dollars to pay me whatever they think my guns are worth excluding any accessories or related items. This is unjust and tyrannical behavior on the part of the Liberal Government who campaigned on governing with "transparency" yet they proceed with just the opposite, as a firearm owner it is mandated to me by law not to allow my firearms to fall into unqualified, unlicensed, persons and this Liberal government is just that.

    So as a law abiding citizen this government will not be "stealing" my firearms, I will fight there will be no punches thrown, no bullets shot, I will petition, inform, show up at town/city halls and vote this Liberal government out of power and disband this systemic racism, slander, and defamation of character put upon the firearm owner/community for no viable reason. I will protect my rights and freedoms to pursue happiness, protection of oneself, and the right to bear arms afforded to me.

    Why is it that we're the first to get taxed, the first to get punished, yet the last to be considered!

    Thanking you in advance for your time.

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    The Legal basis for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Canada.

    Many Canadians believe (and our government would certainly have us believe) that there is no Right of the citizen to keep arms for their own use and defense, like the US Second Amendment, in Canadian law.

    To those citizens, I would suggest a bit of reading up on our own history and legal framework.

    Our right to bear arms is not mentioned in recent documents such as the Constitution or Charter because it's already stated elsewhere in Canadian law.


    We have this Right, though our government is attempting to suppress it and deny citizen's their age-old right to self-defense with the egregious and unconstitutional (not to mention horrendously expensive) Firearms Act and other proposals. It leads one to wonder why the government so wants an unarmed and defenceless populace.


    Our right to keep and bear arms in our own or the country's defense comes from exactly the same place as the American one -- English Common Law, the English Bill of Rights 1689, the writings of Sir William Blackstone in his Commentaries on English Law, and others. All these laws (and indeed the full body of English Law), became part of Canadian law on our Confederation in 1867 with the affirmation of the British North America (BNA) Act.



    The Canadian Right to Bear Arms

    The common law right to bear arms has existed for at least 300 years in Anglo-Canadian law. Although it may have had its origins even earlier,42 the first explicit recognition of this right appears in the English Bill of Rights (1689), designed by Parliament to constrain the power of the new King after the Glorious Revolution of 1688. Article VII of this document states:

    That the subjects which are Protestant may have arms for their defence, suitable to their conditions, and as allowed by law.

    Article VII thus indicates that Protestants in Great Britain enjoyed the right to bear arms, subject to certain restrictions placed upon the right by Parliament, restrictions that were usually related to class. The right to bear arms was so fundamental to the British constitutional system that in the next century Sir William Blackstone, the celebrated author of the Commentaries on the Laws of England, included this right among the five most fundamental auxiliary rights of British subjects, including such fundamental tenets as Parliamentary supremacy and the right of subjects to seek redress for grievances in courts of law. Blackstone laid out the right to bear arms as follows:

    The fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute 1 W. & M. st. 2. c. 2 (the English Bill Of Rights), and it is indeed, a public allowance under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression.

    Although this right has been regulated in various ways since its promulgation, it remains part of one of the most important legal instruments in British constitutional history. This right was passed down to Canada through the preamble of the British North America Act (1867) which grants Canada “a Constitution similar in Principle to that of the United Kingdom,” a phrase which transfers to and entrenches the British common law legacy in Canada - including the right to keep arms.

    A counter argument has been made to the claim that there is a right to own firearms in Canada by Lois G. Schwoerer. Schwoerer argues that Article VII in the 1688 English Bill of Rights did nothing more than grant Britons a communal right to self-defence; the right of the British to have an armed militia for the common defence of their territory. According to Schwoerer, Article VII did not grant individuals a right to own firearms for self-protection, and there is no common law foundation for such a right.43

    Joyce Malcolm effectively rebuts Schwoerer’s evidence. Malcolm points out that many of the drafters of the English Bill of Rights were lawyers who knew the importance of draftsmanship and statutory interpretation. Such people would undoubtedly have included a reference to a common or communal right to bear arms if they had intended it not to apply strictly to individuals. As well, farmers of the American Bill of Rights, basing their document on its British ancestor, included a right for individuals to bear arms in their document, so sure were they that their citizens had enjoyed a right to bear arms under British rule:

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    Malcolm buttresses her position with several British precedents. In R. v. Gardner 93 E.R. 1056, it was ruled that the keeping of a gun for self-defence was a legal and permissible act in England, provided that it was not used for unlawful purposes (in this case, for hunting, an activity prohibited to members of the lower class such as the accused). In Wingfield v. Stratford and Osman 96 E.R. 787, a similar ruling was made confirming the right of individuals to bear arms for their self-defence.

    The right to bear arms is not absolute, and has been subject to regulation by law since at least the time of the Glorious Revolution. Regulation, however, does not extinguish this right. In R. v. Sparrow [1990] 1 S.C.R. 1075 the Supreme Court affirmed that regulation of an aboriginal right does not automatically extinguish the right. Mutatis mutandi, the same logic applies to section 26 rights such as the right to bear arms.

    Indeed, the historical right of the descendants of European settlers to bear arms can be no less than the right of Aboriginal Canadians to possess firearms, since the latter only acquired firearms with the arrival of the former. It can hardly be maintained that there is an Aboriginal right to bear arms but not a similar right for non-Aboriginals, when it was European settlers who first brought firearms to North American and its Aboriginal inhabitants. The right to bear arms is thus a historical right of all Canadians, and this right is affirmed and extended by section 26 of the Charter.

    A right that has been entrenched in constitutional and quasi-constitutional documents for three centuries, recognized in judicial interpretation, and accorded constitutional pre-eminence by one of the most renowned commentators on British law, is protected in Canada through section 26 of the Charter. Since the Firearms Act prohibits the mere possession of a firearm—even for purposes of self-defense in one’s own home—it restricts this right. Given the intimate connection between the right of self-defense and to rights to life, liberty and security of the person protected by section 7 of the Charter, the state must justify its restriction of this right according to the strict tests mandated by the Oakes precedent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerPark View Post
    TNA makes it way too easy to spend your money there... Nothing but amazing service from them.
    Quote Originally Posted by jiffx2781 View Post
    I got that in my order as well. TNA is awesome!!!!

    (and yes, I put a letter in the envelope and sent it)


    Great to know guys, as stated to TNA. "I'LL BE BACK"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ABNDT View Post
    First time ordering from TNA, I felt that an honourable mention should go out to them. I just received my order and upon opening it I discover a "pre addressed" envelope to my local MP and a letter requesting if I could take a few minutes to write them. Awesome!, thank you to Zach and the entire TNA team, for doing your part. I would be honored and privileged to send the letter and support you and the community as a whole. Just added another Buisness to the "buy from them again list" HOOYA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiffx2781 View Post
    I got that in my order as well. TNA is awesome!!!!

    (and yes, I put a letter in the envelope and sent it)
    beautiful

    we want it to be like Miracle on 34th Street at the MP's offices.

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    Wow!

    Now that's something you don't hear about every day!!! This kind of pro-active attitude is so incredible to see!

    I'll definitely be giving you some business in the future because of this!!!!

    Thank you so much for putting great effort into standing up for everyone!!!

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    I like TNA..& T & A Even a small order I placed had a personally signed Thank you on the receipt & a sticker. Def. a store in my 'Look at first' list. Oh & BTW *Their lol...haha sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ABNDT View Post
    Great to know guys, as stated to TNA. "I'LL BE BACK"
    That's Awesome TNA!

    I've never ordered from you guys but I will defiantly do so going forward...Just won a new customer!

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    Great job TNA!!!
    Just a thought, which could make it help push some numbers even more is maybe have a pre typed or photocopied letter sent along with the order and envelope. This way the person could read it over and if they like or agree, just sign it, drop it in the mailbox and we’re done!!
    At this point anything to get those numbers up!
    Once again, great job TNA!!
    And yes..... Doing THEIR part!

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