Divorce agreement

[Armed Hippie]

Since when did fighting for gun rights transform into an existential struggle between left wing stupidity and right wing stupidity?

Leave the politics bs out of it, when we’ve got a right to bear arms in our constitution we can go back to name calling and wining about corporations and social programs. Right now we are fighting for our ability to keep our guns and stop an illegal nationwide gun seizure.

Justin Trudeau and Bill aren’t our greatest foes, 2 million united and determined gun owners of every background standing in unison will stop their ambitions like a speeding car hitting a concrete wall.

Right wing idealists who would rather weaken the unity between right and left leaning gun owners then stand strong alongside them is what will doom us. Internal strife in this testing time is an efficient means to quick defeat.

[nowarningshot]

Good article for dividing the firearms community with the assumption that all firearms owners must be non-socialist, non-hippie, non-left wing, but also religious and loyal to the monarchy, conservatives, etc. The real world is never so black and white as evidenced by the many comments made. Even conservatives don't necessarily like religion or the Queen.

Most voters are not a single issue voter like most of the firearms community. In fact most voters are not so set on 1 party but changes back and forth depending on election platform, charisma of the potential PM, certainly ideology, etc. Socialism isn't communism; Marx has nothing to do with modern social democracy that is Canada and many so-called "welfare states" in EU today.

The hypothetical divide, if it were to happen, would result in a "wexit state" very much resemble pre-WWII fascist Germany where the only party acceptable would be the conservative party or it's conservatives vs. a more conservative party; and, anyone with any remote sense of injustice from the overwhelming wealth gaps between the super rich and the working poor would be cast out as leftist liberals, allowing the few elites to maintain a tight grip on the economy and power. The so called trickle down economics hasn't been trickling down much for decades now. One only needs to look at the wealth increase of the top 10% vs. the bottom 50%. People's pay/wealth, etc are not improving, whereas the the top 10% just keep on getting richer.

I challenge anyone who agree with the divorce agreement to tell me which group should I go if there's a spit. I'm a member of the CAF, specifically the RCAF. I've been serving the country for the past 10 years and will continue to do so for the foreseeble future. On paper I'm loyal to the Queen, but privately I'm loyal to Canadians only. I was born to an immigrant family. I drive a hybrid vehicle for rushhour commute to work because the local pump price is sitting at $1.46/L, but also have a F150 because I use it to transport my 4x4 to my hunting spots. I enjoy landscape photography while sipping on my trendy latte (not pumpkin spice though). I think the pipeline should be built so that we will have a strong economy to be able to afford the cleaner energy solutions in the future; and I think implementation of clean energy should come as a gradual and phased approach.

Trickle down economics and capitalism is far, far from perfect. The solution isn't open borders, with unskilled people bankrupting the country's social safety net. Capitalism isnt perfect, its just so far, it's so far our best invention.

[Armed Hippie]

Good article for dividing the firearms community with the assumption that all firearms owners must be non-socialist, non-hippie, non-left wing, but also religious and loyal to the monarchy, conservatives, etc. The real world is never so black and white as evidenced by the many comments made. Even conservatives don't necessarily like religion or the Queen.

Most voters are not a single issue voter like most of the firearms community. In fact most voters are not so set on 1 party but changes back and forth depending on election platform, charisma of the potential PM, certainly ideology, etc. Socialism isn't communism; Marx has nothing to do with modern social democracy that is Canada and many so-called "welfare states" in EU today.

The hypothetical divide, if it were to happen, would result in a "wexit state" very much resemble pre-WWII fascist Germany where the only party acceptable would be the conservative party or it's conservatives vs. a more conservative party; and, anyone with any remote sense of injustice from the overwhelming wealth gaps between the super rich and the working poor would be cast out as leftist liberals, allowing the few elites to maintain a tight grip on the economy and power. The so called trickle down economics hasn't been trickling down much for decades now. One only needs to look at the wealth increase of the top 10% vs. the bottom 50%. People's pay/wealth, etc are not improving, whereas the the top 10% just keep on getting richer.

I challenge anyone who agree with the divorce agreement to tell me which group should I go if there's a spit. I'm a member of the CAF, specifically the RCAF. I've been serving the country for the past 10 years and will continue to do so for the foreseeble future. On paper I'm loyal to the Queen, but privately I'm loyal to Canadians only. I was born to an immigrant family. I drive a hybrid vehicle for rushhour commute to work because the local pump price is sitting at $1.46/L, but also have a F150 because I use it to transport my 4x4 to my hunting spots. I enjoy landscape photography while sipping on my trendy latte (not pumpkin spice though). I think the pipeline should be built so that we will have a strong economy to be able to afford the cleaner energy solutions in the future; and I think implementation of clean energy should come as a gradual and phased approach.

Round of applause for you sir, united we are strong, it really couldn’t be any more simple.

[Milspectacles]

Funny. Someone wants to live in the poor rural area while enjoying all the money made in the rich urban areas.

"Funny. Someone wants to live in the rich urban area while enjoying all the food made in the poor rural areas."

Not here to pick a fight or spread division, just want to remind everyone that this is a two-way street and we are all dependent on each-other to keep our ways of life

[Taurkon]

Since when did fighting for gun rights transform into an existential struggle between left wing stupidity and right wing stupidity?

Leave the politics bs out of it, when we’ve got a right to bear arms in our constitution we can go back to name calling and wining about corporations and social programs. Right now we are fighting for our ability to keep our guns and stop an illegal nationwide gun seizure.

Justin Trudeau and Bill aren’t our greatest foes, 2 million united and determined gun owners of every background standing in unison will stop their ambitions like a speeding car hitting a concrete wall.

Right wing idealists who would rather weaken the unity between right and left leaning gun owners then stand strong alongside them is what will doom us. Internal strife in this testing time is an efficient means to quick defeat.

Because this was posted on a gun forum, it's assumed by many that guns are the wedge that divide. The wedge is that of the laurentian elite and their lust of centralized power in a nation that cannot be described as united or aligned. We are a diverse country, separated by social differences and economic and environmental interests that cannot be aligned. Firearms is just one tiny issue that is a minnow compared to the large fish swimming this ocean of disfunction that we call Canada.

A cordial breakup of Canada would be the best thing that happens to this country imo. We watched it happen in Europe after 1991 with varying outcomes, but I think about the breakup of the USSA and even beyond that, the breakup of satellite countries after the fact such as Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovakia and wonder why we can't do so in Canada. I would not wish to see a single shot fired, but I'm getting to the point where the arrogance in Ottawa aimed towards some of the western provinces should be no longer tolerated.

[Youzawhale]

Good article for dividing the firearms community

Its not an article, and it most likely wasn't written as some sort of firearms right advocacy piece, let alone one designed to unite our community.

Youza.

[All in fun]

Because this was posted on a gun forum, it's assumed by many that guns are the wedge that divide. The wedge is that of the laurentian elite and their lust of centralized power in a nation that cannot be described as united or aligned. We are a diverse country, separated by social differences and economic and environmental interests that cannot be aligned. Firearms is just one tiny issue that is a minnow compared to the large fish swimming this ocean of disfunction that we call Canada.

A cordial breakup of Canada would be the best thing that happens to this country imo. We watched it happen in Europe after 1991 with varying outcomes, but I think about the breakup of the USSA and even beyond that, the breakup of satellite countries after the fact such as Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovakia and wonder why we can't do so in Canada. I would not wish to see a single shot fired, but I'm getting to the point where the arrogance in Ottawa aimed towards some of the western provinces should be no longer tolerated.

The problem with balkanization is it would cause massive financial upset that would drive the cost of living through the roof.

[bluelynx]

If the letter was written by a law student they could keep their Constitution where the state protects itself from the citizens

and we will have a constitution very similar to the U.S. where the citizens are to be protected from the state.

[gutinater]

Good article for dividing the firearms community with the assumption that all firearms owners must be non-socialist, non-hippie, non-left wing, but also religious and loyal to the monarchy, conservatives, etc. The real world is never so black and white as evidenced by the many comments made. Even conservatives don't necessarily like religion or the Queen.

Most voters are not a single issue voter like most of the firearms community. In fact most voters are not so set on 1 party but changes back and forth depending on election platform, charisma of the potential PM, certainly ideology, etc. Socialism isn't communism; Marx has nothing to do with modern social democracy that is Canada and many so-called "welfare states" in EU today.

The hypothetical divide, if it were to happen, would result in a "wexit state" very much resemble pre-WWII fascist Germany where the only party acceptable would be the conservative party or it's conservatives vs. a more conservative party; and, anyone with any remote sense of injustice from the overwhelming wealth gaps between the super rich and the working poor would be cast out as leftist liberals, allowing the few elites to maintain a tight grip on the economy and power. The so called trickle down economics hasn't been trickling down much for decades now. One only needs to look at the wealth increase of the top 10% vs. the bottom 50%. People's pay/wealth, etc are not improving, whereas the the top 10% just keep on getting richer.

I challenge anyone who agree with the divorce agreement to tell me which group should I go if there's a spit. I'm a member of the CAF, specifically the RCAF. I've been serving the country for the past 10 years and will continue to do so for the foreseeble future. On paper I'm loyal to the Queen, but privately I'm loyal to Canadians only. I was born to an immigrant family. I drive a hybrid vehicle for rushhour commute to work because the local pump price is sitting at $1.46/L, but also have a F150 because I use it to transport my 4x4 to my hunting spots. I enjoy landscape photography while sipping on my trendy latte (not pumpkin spice though). I think the pipeline should be built so that we will have a strong economy to be able to afford the cleaner energy solutions in the future; and I think implementation of clean energy should come as a gradual and phased approach.

First off Thank you for your service. This is the best written and most nuanced post in this entire thread.

[conmaesta]

I like the part about Mr. Dressup!!!