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    1886 Steyr Kropatschek collection almost finished

    Just got the 1886 Colonial rifle today, now we just wait for the "short" rifle imported from US.

    They are not too much value but part of the Euro military rifle history, we like to have them all display in our store front.


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    You are very optimistic in regards of "collection almost finished". Apart of infantry carbine there was artillery carbine and then cavalry carbine. And there was cavalry carbine converted from artillery. Like this one. Those babies are extremely hard to find.

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    Anyone have a full-power load they use?

    I'm shooting 215gr .330" cast, gas checked, 46.5gr of H4895 with a filler.

    Ideally I would want to shoot a heavier bullet so I don't have to use a filler.

    Military bullet was a .320" 245gr gilded metal jacket. My bore measures .330", lands are ~.315". I might have to get a custom mold made for a ~250gr .330" RN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horilka View Post
    You are very optimistic in regards of "collection almost finished". Apart of infantry carbine there was artillery carbine and then cavalry carbine. And there was cavalry carbine converted from artillery. Like this one. Those babies are extremely hard to find.

    OMG, I don't think even can find any of them anymore.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaredP View Post
    Anyone have a full-power load they use?

    I'm shooting 215gr .330" cast, gas checked, 46.5gr of H4895 with a filler.

    Ideally I would want to shoot a heavier bullet so I don't have to use a filler.

    Military bullet was a .320" 245gr gilded metal jacket. My bore measures .330", lands are ~.315". I might have to get a custom mold made for a ~250gr .330" RN.

    Total only about 4000 carbine available, now we at least have 3 here.....

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    So people say 8x60R and 8x56R are interchangeable, is it true?

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    I sold both the carbine and a colonial version to a fellow CGN in the Eastern provinces a couple of months ago...Both were all numbers matching along with cleaning rods and bayos...however bayo numbers did not match the rifles...From what I know he also has a collection of these rifles and fires them on a regular basis Hopefully he will chime in regards to reloading etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf19534 View Post
    I sold both the carbine and a colonial version to a fellow CGN in the Eastern provinces a couple of months ago...Both were all numbers matching along with cleaning rods and bayos...however bayo numbers did not match the rifles...From what I know he also has a collection of these rifles and fires them on a regular basis Hopefully he will chime in regards to reloading etc.
    Matching number ones are very rare!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durhamoutdoors View Post
    So people say 8x60R and 8x56R are interchangeable, is it true?
    The confusing bit is that 8×56mmR is more commonly used to refer to the Austrian M95 rifle cartridge.

    8×56mmR Kropatschek I believe is the smokeless iteration, 8x60mmR was only blackpowder. Most chambers I think will accept either, only the neck is longer on the 8x60.

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    Just got the short rifle! Now I am happy!

    From top, the carbine, the short rifle, the long rifle, the colonial rifle.

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