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    It took 10 years and it finally happened.... ITAR Export Reform...

    It’s been 10 years in the making, but the transition of firearms and firearm related parts/accessories from the USML (United States Munitions List) to the CCL (Commerce Control List) will officially take place on March 9, 2020.


    The export of firearms and related parts/accessories have been regulated by two different federal agencies: The Department of State and The Department of Commerce Bureau of Industry & Security.

    Each agency has its own set of regulations governing what is controlled and how it must be exported.

    Up until this change, the Department of State regulated exports of most firearms and their related parts, ammo, and information through their International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) which contain a list of covered firearm types called the United States Munitions List (USML).

    The USML includes all rifles, handguns, and short barreled shotguns (those with a barrel length less than 18″).

    The Department of Commerce Bureau of Industry & Security (BIS), on the other hand, has the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) which regulates the export of all firearm types on a list, called the Commerce Control List (CCL)

    This transition, although immediate has several unanswered questions and guidelines that need to be addressed to ensure compliance and a streamlined transition.

    Over the next 45 to 60 days we will be making several positive changes to our business model.

    BIS has also added over 100 compliance and security personnel to ensure the changes in Export Reform are followed. They will be working with CBP “US Customs and Border Protection” and AES “Automated Export Systems” during this transition.

    We are bringing this to light as these changes are new for everyone and it will take some time for all Governing agencies to work in unison, as the last thing anyone wants is their purchase to be seized or tied up at the Border.

    Although these changes will make the exportation of defense articles a lot easier it is by no way an open-door policy, everything is still highly regulated.

    Also important to remember is that this would only change the U.S. export controls – not Canadian import regulations, nor U.S. import regulations. This means that the same licensing, permit and transport requirements apply for import to Canada as they did before.

    Likewise, none of this changes the permanent import of firearms into the United States, which remains controlled by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).

    We will provide updates on the changes once policies and procedures have been confirmed with BIS.

    Please do not derail this thread with off topic propaganda otherwise we will lock the thread.

    As of now, the following positive changes are confirmed.

    MAGAZINES:

    All magazines with a original round count of 50 rounds or less can be exported from the U.S. This includes drum mags; please understand this is 50 rounds not 51 or 75. To the people who have tried to purchase 75 round drums your transactions have been voided and your credit cards will not be charged.

    SHOT BARRELED SHOTGUNS:

    Tactical Shotguns or shotguns with a barrel length less than 18”:
    This door is now open, and the export restrictions have been lifted, please see our post on the Remington, Mossberg and Charles Daily short barreled shotguns.

    IMPORTS that were affected by the transition.

    We have had a number of conversations with the new Director for the Dept. of Commerce. Although it is still unclear if foreign end users will be permitted to purchase directly from the United States, the Director has made provisions and authorized us to submit a new license application under the new guidelines to help everyone out. Upon approval, this will finally allow us to complete the export of everyone's firearms. We would like to thank everyone for their patience, understanding and most of all confidence in us.

    Great things to follow shortly.


    The IRUNGUNS Team
    Last edited by IRUNGUNS; 03-08-2020 at 11:06 PM.


    Flat rate shipping to Canada is 25.00USD on all accessory and ammunition orders regardless of quantities ordered. Firearms are exported to Canada at a flat rate of 25.00USD per firearm.

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    What about bcgs? There were no issues importing these without an export licence until recently. Will this change affect the status of bcgs? Thanks
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    Thanks, it's a loooong time coming, but it's nice to see "the sun setting" on ITAR or at least the change. What's the "new deal" with scopes and lasers?
    Some scope manufacturers have some pretty good "discount" programs but won't entertain canadian customers due to the previous shipping regulations, can you now intercede on our behalf? And what are the fees?
    Would this be a typical 3rd party export etc. Stay Safe
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    Are we going to be able to get ammo through you again?
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    Those are one of the problems that still need to be addressed. It is uncertain what will happen but the BCG's are currently still regulated under the ITAR.

    Quote Originally Posted by auracle View Post
    What about bcgs? There were no issues importing these without an export licence until recently. Will this change affect the status of bcgs? Thanks


    Flat rate shipping to Canada is 25.00USD on all accessory and ammunition orders regardless of quantities ordered. Firearms are exported to Canada at a flat rate of 25.00USD per firearm.

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    We are working on it, I believe we may be able to open that door in a big way. We will keep everyone in the loop.


    Quote Originally Posted by jiffx2781 View Post
    Are we going to be able to get ammo through you again?


    Flat rate shipping to Canada is 25.00USD on all accessory and ammunition orders regardless of quantities ordered. Firearms are exported to Canada at a flat rate of 25.00USD per firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRUNGUNS View Post
    We are working on it, I believe we may be able to open that door in a big way. We will keep everyone in the loop.


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    Thermal, and night vision is currently under the ITAR, we don't see that changing with the recent problems with ATN and Flur. As for lasers if the NM rating is less then 710 it is Commerce controlled. If it exceeds 710 it is controlled under the ITAR.

    We are currently awaiting clarification on foreign end users prior to revamping our 3rd party export program.

    Quote Originally Posted by mildot View Post
    Thanks, it's a loooong time coming, but it's nice to see "the sun setting" on ITAR or at least the change. What's the "new deal" with scopes and lasers?
    Some scope manufacturers have some pretty good "discount" programs but won't entertain canadian customers due to the previous shipping regulations, can you now intercede on our behalf? And what are the fees?
    Would this be a typical 3rd party export etc. Stay Safe


    Flat rate shipping to Canada is 25.00USD on all accessory and ammunition orders regardless of quantities ordered. Firearms are exported to Canada at a flat rate of 25.00USD per firearm.

    The IRUNGUNS Team

    www.irunguns.ca
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    For those of us caught up in the export reform, was there any timeline on how long the approval will take? Just curious.

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    So we're good again on 5/40 pmags and others like that ?

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