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Armed Hippie said:
Does anyone know the status of semi’s that haven’t (yet) been included in the ban? Can we still take them out for a pop? Sorry I’m posting this question here... it’s just I don’t want to draw attention to unbanned semi’s.
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You've answered your own question with the word 'haven't'.

They are not banned, go have some fun.
 
I finished my maccabee build Yesterday. I was going to order a stag10 set today but guess that hope is dashed. What if the deal for a receiver set was made yesterday. Wouldnt the new owner have to take posession?
 
why can't you ship orders out? the OIC clearly says guns can be returned to owners.

are you saying all orders before the ban are being canceled? or only the preorders that you never had in stock?

"Individuals may transport the firearms one time to return home with the firearm if it was not at the owner’s residence at the time the prohibition came into force, or, if not the owner and in possession of the firearm on the day the prohibition came into force, return the firearm to its
owner."
 
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Scott, I presume that this is specific to those firearms that have not yet arrived in Canada, and are thus banned from entry. The current batch of Stag 10 complete rifles were listed as a pre-order.

My understanding of the ruling is that if it's in stock and you bought it before the prohibition came into effect, they should still be able to ship it (receiver sets, for example, that are physically in stock).

Parts and magazines are all exempt and should continue shipping as per norm.

Bradley
 
To me the post sounds like guns they have not already shipped to customers can no longer be shipped. Ie they can not ship a prohib firearm. So just clarifying.
 
PaveHammer said:
Scott, I presume that this is specific to those firearms that have not yet arrived in Canada, and are thus banned from entry. The current batch of Stag 10 complete rifles were listed as a pre-order.

My understanding of the ruling is that if it's in stock and you bought it before the prohibition came into effect, they should still be able to ship it (receiver sets, for example, that are physically in stock).

Parts and magazines are all exempt and should continue shipping as per norm.

Bradley
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Your understanding is not correct. Technically, a sale is done when the buyer takes possession of the good or service. In case of a sale from a distance (online sale or phone sale), the sale is deemed complete when the product is shipped. Technically, this happens when the courrier takes the packages. So even a receiver fully packaged with a shipping label on the box shouldn't be sent unless the courrier picked it up before the GiC order was published in the gazette. There might be some wiggle room as far as what's the exact time of shipping, like when the courrier picked it up vs when the label was created, but we're talking about a few hours difference here, definitely not anything like "stores can sell their inventory".

There is a provision to allow stores to send their inventory back to the manufacturer, so I guess most of these receiver sets (and complete rifles) will go back to STAG.
 
I recently purchased a Stag 10. Maybe I sold it already, maybe I didn’t.

The OIC confuses me. The Stag 10 is non-restricted because the RCMP lab determined it is not an AR10. The OIC now lists it as an AR10 varient. How can this be?
 
VinnyQC said:
Your understanding is not correct. Technically, a sale is done when the buyer takes possession of the good or service. In case of a sale from a distance (online sale or phone sale), the sale is deemed complete when the product is shipped. Technically, this happens when the courrier takes the packages. So even a receiver fully packaged with a shipping label on the box shouldn't be sent unless the courrier picked it up before the GiC order was published in the gazette. There might be some wiggle room as far as what's the exact time of shipping, like when the courrier picked it up vs when the label was created, but we're talking about a few hours difference here, definitely not anything like "stores can sell their inventory".

There is a provision to allow stores to send their inventory back to the manufacturer, so I guess most of these receiver sets (and complete rifles) will go back to STAG.
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So why are transfers before May still being completed, if that was the case they all would be cancelled
 
I have dealt with you guys many times,
My thoughts and prayers are with you guys specifically,
As being an AR exclusive shop, this new law is especially hard to swallow.
 
I believe you are allowed to ship it to them if its been paid for.

It says in the gazette that you must return the rifle to owner as fast as possible apon the oic comming into effect.

So if its paid for. Its theirs, you could ship it

Edit, i see this has been covered. Thats what happens when you only read the first 2 pagss lol. Oops, never mind
 
VinnyQC said:
Your understanding is not correct. Technically, a sale is done when the buyer takes possession of the good or service. In case of a sale from a distance (online sale or phone sale), the sale is deemed complete when the product is shipped. Technically, this happens when the courrier takes the packages. So even a receiver fully packaged with a shipping label on the box shouldn't be sent unless the courrier picked it up before the GiC order was published in the gazette. There might be some wiggle room as far as what's the exact time of shipping, like when the courrier picked it up vs when the label was created, but we're talking about a few hours difference here, definitely not anything like "stores can sell their inventory".

There is a provision to allow stores to send their inventory back to the manufacturer, so I guess most of these receiver sets (and complete rifles) will go back to STAG.
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Careful making statements on the legalities if you are not 100% sure that following your logic will not incur legal problems for those that may follow it. I know you mean well and are staying what you believe to be common sense, but logic vs LE interpretation should cause pause to stating what we believe is fact vs what we know is fact.
 
Tikka223 said:
I recently purchased a Stag 10. Maybe I sold it already, maybe I didn’t.

The OIC confuses me. The Stag 10 is non-restricted because the RCMP lab determined it is not an AR10. The OIC now lists it as an AR10 varient. How can this be?
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Because it looks like an AR10. Yes, they went through a catalogue and if it looks scary: Banned. My Stag 10 was so upset it ran away a few days ago, possibly heading towards Canmore.
 
Evanguy said:
I believe you are allowed to ship it to them if its been paid for.

It says in the gazette that you must return the rifle to owner as fast as possible apon the oic comming into effect.

So if its paid for. Its theirs, you could ship it

Edit, i see this has been covered. Thats what happens when you only read the first 2 pagss lol. Oops, never mind
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and what if you haven't paid for it? what if you only put a deposit on it?
 
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