STAG-10 Upper Completion Question POST BAN

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Since legally you cannot sell the Stag-10 upper receivers anymore, assuming the aluminum forging part will be the prohibited upper portion, can you still sell us the remaining components to those of us that bought the upper/lower combos?

I can't see any way we can legally finish the build without the barrel/hand guard/gas tube assy.

-Barrels shouldn't be prohib as they are multi-platform.
-Gas tube is, well, a tube.
-Hand guard has no mechanical function.

The rest can be sourced without a hitch. Buffer tube etc.
 
Reading the OIC, there is not mention that barrels, bolts, or any other external or internal parts of the upper receiver are prohib. You should be GTG.

Youza.
 
Karnage said:
Since legally you cannot sell the Stag-10 upper receivers anymore, assuming the aluminum forging part will be the prohibited upper portion, can you still sell us the remaining components to those of us that bought the upper/lower combos?

I can't see any way we can legally finish the build without the barrel/hand guard/gas tube assy.

-Barrels shouldn't be prohib as they are multi-platform.
-Gas tube is, well, a tube.
-Hand guard has no mechanical function.

The rest can be sourced without a hitch. Buffer tube etc.
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California laws have handguards, muzzle devices, pistol grips, butt stocks as being prohibited so having the upper prohibited is not the beginning.

As the communication states as things displace things they will make adjustments. Count on it.
 
Sqr said:
California laws have handguards, muzzle devices, pistol grips, butt stocks as being prohibited so having the upper prohibited is not the beginning.

As the communication states as things displace things they will make adjustments. Count on it.
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The OIC criterias are arbitrary and overeaching and I believe this is the best avenue to fight it in court.

The "firearm capable of accepted a large capacity magazine" criteria is a moot point, since magazine capacities are already regulated.
The "sustain a high rate of fire" is also fallacious : all semi-autos can maintain the same high rate of fire. So this criteria either applies to all semi-autos or none of them. And since semi-autos are allowed in legislation, regulations like an OIC cannot make changes to this type of gun.
The "more than a thousand on the market" is arbitrary and has no impact on the risk a specific model poses. It puts a gun owner at risk of losing his gun simply due to more people legally buying the same firearm. Popularity doesn't increase the functionnal lethality of an object.

So these, both as individual and combined criterias for deciding which guns get banned, is completely absurd and senseless.
Youza.
 
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why can't we sell the stag 10 upper receivers ? there is no serial number associated with them, to my understanding its the lower that is prohibited.
can someone please explain or direct me where it is stated.

cheers
 
FrankyV said:
why can't we sell the stag 10 upper receivers ? there is no serial number associated with them, to my understanding its the lower that is prohibited.
can someone please explain or direct me where it is stated.

cheers
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Its the first paragraph

On May 1, 2020, the Government of Canada has prohibited:

nine (9) types of firearms, by make and model, and their variants; and
firearms with a bore of 20 mm or greater, and those firearms capable of discharging a projectile with a muzzle energy greater than 10,000 Joules; and
the upper receivers of M16, AR-10, AR-15 and M4 pattern firearms
 
Also, the "of modern design" criteria is not rooted in facts, considering the first semi-automatic guns were designed 135 years ago.
The AR15, AR10, vz58 designs are over 60 years old. Thats vintage, not modern...

Youza.
 
FrankyV said:
why can't we sell the stag 10 upper receivers ? there is no serial number associated with them, to my understanding its the lower that is prohibited.
can someone please explain or direct me where it is stated.

cheers
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The 10/22 magazines with capacity larger than 10 rounds have no serial numbers either but were deemed prohibited overnight too.
 
FrankyV said:
why can't we sell the stag 10 upper receivers ? there is no serial number associated with them, to my understanding its the lower that is prohibited.
can someone please explain or direct me where it is stated.

cheers
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The Regulations also prescribe the upper receivers of M16, AR-10, AR-15 and M4 pattern firearms to be prohibited devices in order to ensure that these firearms cannot easily be used with illicitly manufactured or acquired lower receivers.
 
So they have banned specific firearms on the list. I would think, enterprising individuals, can still design a new firearm not on the list, but meeting the criteria for NR since it does not appear that the criteria for classifying rifles has changed. Yet. Just thinking out loud.
 
MustangFrank said:
So they have banned specific firearms on the list. I would think, enterprising individuals, can still design a new firearm not on the list, but meeting the criteria for NR since it does not appear that the criteria for classifying rifles has changed. Yet. Just thinking out loud.
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Do you not read it? I states openly that it is a open document to add on guns that will be bigger sellers because of the bans.
 
MustangFrank said:
So they have banned specific firearms on the list. I would think, enterprising individuals, can still design a new firearm not on the list, but meeting the criteria for NR since it does not appear that the criteria for classifying rifles has changed. Yet. Just thinking out loud.
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Depends on how the RCMP gives out FRT numbers

I am not sure what the process is. Just how different does a rifle have to be from an ar15 to not be considered a variant?
 
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