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  1. #351
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    I still have not received this supposed May 1st OIC notice

    Just finished my 3rd MS SS bringing it to the range tomorrow

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    People need to understand this : nobody knows what’s gonna happen if a LEO catch’s you with a MS and decides to do something. Some people are ready to keep using it, and some others just can’t take the risk for multiple reasons. No matter if ATRS are still making and selling them, and no matter if FRT isn’t law to you, here are the facts. Call your CFO and ask him this question : is the MS prohibited? He’s gonna tell you YES. When a LEO isn’t sure about a firearm’s classification, he calls its CFO and receive the exact same answer, yea it’s prohibited. So this is all gonna have to be solve in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carton775 View Post
    People need to understand this : nobody knows what’s gonna happen if a LEO catch’s you with a MS and decides to do something. Some people are ready to keep using it, and some others just can’t take the risk for multiple reasons. No matter if ATRS are still making and selling them, and no matter if FRT isn’t law to you, here are the facts. Call your CFO and ask him this question : is the MS prohibited? He’s gonna tell you YES. When a LEO isn’t sure about a firearm’s classification, he calls its CFO and receive the exact same answer, yea it’s prohibited. So this is all gonna have to be solve in court.
    I dont think it's up to the LEO or the CFO,who decides if it goes to court

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45C View Post
    I dont think it's up to the LEO or the CFO,who decides if it goes to court
    LEO will check the FRT. Then they will arrest and charge. On release you will likely be prohibited from possessing any firearm, ammunition or explosive. Firearms, ammo, and explosives in your home will be seized prior to your release as it will almost certainly be written as a condition of release. NWEST will prepare a report that will be accepted as gospel by Crown. In a year or so one of two things will happen. One, Crown will drop the charges, likely after offering you a deal to plead to a lesser offence. If they don't offer you a plea deal, and if they don't drop the charges then we get to the fun part...a trial. There will be a Judge who decides the case. You will be out anywhere from $20K-$50K in legal fees. And you may still end up convicted which means that you would have to appeal. In the mean time there will be a forfeiture orger made and all your firearms and ammunition will be disposed of (read that as destroyed...it's not pretty). Then you will have another $30K or so in legal fees to appeal the matter which, again, may result in a loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigUglyMan View Post
    LEO will check the FRT. Then they will arrest and charge. On release you will likely be prohibited from possessing any firearm, ammunition or explosive. Firearms, ammo, and explosives in your home will be seized prior to your release as it will almost certainly be written as a condition of release. NWEST will prepare a report that will be accepted as gospel by Crown. In a year or so one of two things will happen. One, Crown will drop the charges, likely after offering you a deal to plead to a lesser offence. If they don't offer you a plea deal, and if they don't drop the charges then we get to the fun part...a trial. There will be a Judge who decides the case. You will be out anywhere from $20K-$50K in legal fees. And you may still end up convicted which means that you would have to appeal. In the mean time there will be a forfeiture orger made and all your firearms and ammunition will be disposed of (read that as destroyed...it's not pretty). Then you will have another $30K or so in legal fees to appeal the matter which, again, may result in a loss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigUglyMan View Post
    LEO will check the FRT. Then they will arrest and charge. On release you will likely be prohibited from possessing any firearm, ammunition or explosive. Firearms, ammo, and explosives in your home will be seized prior to your release as it will almost certainly be written as a condition of release. NWEST will prepare a report that will be accepted as gospel by Crown. In a year or so one of two things will happen. One, Crown will drop the charges, likely after offering you a deal to plead to a lesser offence. If they don't offer you a plea deal, and if they don't drop the charges then we get to the fun part...a trial. There will be a Judge who decides the case. You will be out anywhere from $20K-$50K in legal fees. And you may still end up convicted which means that you would have to appeal. In the mean time there will be a forfeiture orger made and all your firearms and ammunition will be disposed of (read that as destroyed...it's not pretty). Then you will have another $30K or so in legal fees to appeal the matter which, again, may result in a loss.
    I'd take my chances with a jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45C View Post
    I'd take my chances with a jury.
    Maybe. But like George Carlin said...think how stupid the average person is. Then realize that half of them are stupider!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigUglyMan View Post
    LEO will check the FRT. Then they will arrest and charge. On release you will likely be prohibited from possessing any firearm, ammunition or explosive. Firearms, ammo, and explosives in your home will be seized prior to your release as it will almost certainly be written as a condition of release. NWEST will prepare a report that will be accepted as gospel by Crown. In a year or so one of two things will happen. One, Crown will drop the charges, likely after offering you a deal to plead to a lesser offence. If they don't offer you a plea deal, and if they don't drop the charges then we get to the fun part...a trial. There will be a Judge who decides the case. You will be out anywhere from $20K-$50K in legal fees. And you may still end up convicted which means that you would have to appeal. In the mean time there will be a forfeiture order made and all your firearms and ammunition will be disposed of (read that as destroyed...it's not pretty). Then you will have another $30K or so in legal fees to appeal the matter which, again, may result in a loss.
    That pretty much sums it up completely at this time.
    LE IS treating the FRT as if it were law, which it isn't ofcourse. We are in for some interesting times in the near future.


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