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[goneb4u]

I am curious apart from the stock, what makes this gun so much better then a Beretta 1301 at $1500 ? I am in the market and don't mind spending for the M$ but cannot understand the $1000 delta apart from stock. I see it is even heavier then the 1301, appreciate comments, thanks.

[Vewdu]

I don't understand this argument. This is the second or thrid thread I've seen guys adamantly denying the prices these guns go for.

I have also seen the genuine M4 from 1200-1800 several times in the last 3 years. New and used.

Just people jerking themselves off trying to justify the cost they paid to themselves. Any gun can be had for a good price, it isn't impossible. Those that scream it is, probably got taken and are bitter about it.

[Ironheart]

Regardless of the price, the M4 is one of, if not the best black semi shotgun on the planet.

As for the knock off's you can put all the S&J crap on them available, their still a garbage Turk made clone.

You darn rights! Id never buy one

Ill die with my M4 H20

[CheesyBalls]

All this argument about price from people who don't realize all guns sold by Stoeger Canada have a MAP. It can also be priced above MAP to meet supply and demand.

[ZEN403]

Never have I seen one... plus this price is in USD if anyone missed that

[Hypox!a]

Plus these will probably be on Blairs hit list soon along with anything else that is bigger than his tiny hands.

That’s exactly why I scooped up a 1301 recently.

[Hypox!a]

I am curious apart from the stock, what makes this gun so much better then a Beretta 1301 at $1500 ? I am in the market and don't mind spending for the M$ but cannot understand the $1000 delta apart from stock. I see it is even heavier then the 1301, appreciate comments, thanks.

That the new debate in recent years. The M4 is of course more tested. But the 1301 is more reliable with all loads, lighter, faster(not that you could out run either) and has less recoil. Their both made by Beretta, so the quality is there too.

[Erickson5006]

I got mine used for 2k a year ago, pristine condition. Dreams do come true.

However, the ARGO system still can't eject minis, and my handguard holder fell off. Was poorly soldered on, from factory

[Grain]

However, the ARGO system still can't eject minis...

I personally place mini shot shells in the same category as .22 shot shells. Lots of fun, but most guns won't run them well and too big a premium for regular use. How'd you make out getting the hand guard fixed?

[All in fun]

I sold mine a few months ago for $1700 to some lucky SOB here. But you wouldn’t believe the lowball offers I got. A couple folk actually expected me to drop my price down to $1000 because the Turkish knockoffs are “just the same”. I only had a handful of people willing to pay my asking price. I found it very irksome.

I wish I had seen that