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Thread: Liberals invoke S.39, refuse to provide evidence

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    CGN Ultra frequent flyer Armourall's Avatar
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    This guy's name was originally Wojtec or something like that. He's been pinked at least four times in the last 2 or so days. He just never stops spamming any and all posts regardless of what they are discussing. He's a keyboard warrior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleRife View Post
    the government cannot use the privilege willy-nilly just to avoid scrutiny.
    But the government (this one at least) wants to do exactly that. And if they get away with it in this court or, worse, if it's appealed to the Supreme Court and they win there it will be enshrined in law that the government can pass laws without any scrutiny or need to show the evidence they used or didn't even seek. I find that very frightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogusiii View Post
    if it's appealed to the Supreme Court and they win there it will be enshrined in law that the government can pass laws without any scrutiny or need to show the evidence they used or didn't even seek. I find that very frightening.
    Yes, if it happens, but it hasn't.

    Look, I agree that a lot rides on these cases and if we lose it is worth questioning whether or not Canada is a nation worth living in. But we haven't lost yet. Give the courts a chance.
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    Canadian human garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soothsayer View Post
    Nah large groups of armed men and women can overwhelm and protect the community including that first unlucky registered gun owner that refuses to comply.

    That's why they want to disarm civilians.
    I see you are back Wotjek. I give it less than 72hrs before this name goes pink.
    peace..through superior firepower!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ershwin View Post
    The charter isn't going to protect you from anythinf, it's right there in its first section "reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society".

    My money is on the narrative that a truly free and democratic society shouldn't be subject to a few violent individuals who want to own weapons designed to kill a maximum amount of people in the shortest bla bla bla
    I saw it and the Liberlas have objectively failed to demonstrate its justification because they literally refuse to, well...... demonstrate the justification. They haven't even tried and when asked they refused.

    Charter arguments are used daily in criminal court to find fault with cops procedural errors and even prejudicial thoughts to have charges withdrawn or stayed. The Charter is our best chance to keep our legally owned property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleRife View Post
    Yes, if it happens, but it hasn't.

    Look, I agree that a lot rides on these cases and if we lose it is worth questioning whether or not Canada is a nation worth living in. But we haven't lost yet. Give the courts a chance.
    That will be the test. If it goes well, fantastic. If not it suggests one of two things. Either the Liberal appointed judges really are sympathetic to their appointers (and the Liberals have a long and well documented history meddling in judicial appointments) or they are truly independent of politics and think this kind of hidden, no-need-to-justify lawmaking is A-OK. Like you say, let's see what happens. We may be surprised that right, common sense and and justice prevails.

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