The R18 Mk2 Review Pt 2 Live Fire Reliabllity and Accuracy Results

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Bartok5 said:
The Mk2 at this point has all of the announced Mk3 upgrades less the "Dust Cover"/ Ejection Port Cover. Rather that sell rifles with minor "issues", JR Cox and SAI agreed to delay the production rifle in favour of rectifying the problems and simutaneously integrating as much of the Mk3 upgrades as possible. This gives purchasers of the rifle some upgrades that were never initially going to be offered with the Mk2, such as the adjustable Gas Block which is necessary for anyone contemplating a calibre change.

The adjustable Gas Blocks will be sent out free of charge to anyone purchasing one of the "Pencil Barrel" Rifles equipped with a Fixed Gas Block. That said, the intent is to stockpile sufficient spare parts that folks will be able to purchase any part that they want.
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To clarify: The plan is to release about 40 rifles in total initially. this will be a mixture of MOE Grey, MOE FDE and Zhukov Folding (Blk). They will come out the same day at The Shooting Edge (Calgary) and Target Sports (Gormley)

These rifles all work as is, otherwise they would not be released ;-)

These will have the full pencil barrel, non-adjustable gas blocks and an aluminum cocking plate and standard guide rods.

In testing, we found that; if you dropped the guide rods "just right", the nitriding made them too fragile and they "could" crack or shear from the back plate.... Its an easy fix... don't drop them ;-)

Whomever buys these first limited rifles will get a free replacement back plate, guide rods, improved return springs and a steel cocking plate... all easy to swap, sent out automatically.

What you do not get is a new gas block. There really is zero reason to swap the gas block on the existing rifle as it works great. If you want an adjustable gas block, wait till February.

We have also asked SAI to sell us parts and they have agreed, so by mid-Jan, we should also have a complete listing of SAI parts on our websites and in-store. We will NOT be selling receiver sets at this time.

On a different note; we have asked SAI to also make us a smallish run of 7075 T6 receiver sets. These will be delivered in Feb/Mar... pricing to be determined later as they have not quoted us yet.

For those thinking about the MK3; that is 6+ months away. The plan is to get these out, and stabilize before moving on.
 
Bartok5 said:
As I said right after your selected quote from Ceiferiro, the intent is to stockpile and sell all individual R18 parts to anyone who is willing to pay the price. I do not believe that JR Cox and SAI much care what you do with their individual parts, however don't expect much sympathy if you manage to screw up your WK-180 or WS-MCR by swapping in R18 parts (or god forbid, vice-versa)....
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We'll gladly sell you parts... but they will come with a "tail light warranty".... ;-)

JR
 
TSE JR said:
To clarify: The plan is to release about 40 rifles in total initially. this will be a mixture of MOE Grey, MOE FDE and Zhukov Folding (Blk). They will come out the same day at The Shooting Edge (Calgary) and Target Sports (Gormley)

These rifles all work as is, otherwise they would not be released ;-)

These will have the full pencil barrel, non-adjustable gas blocks and an aluminum cocking plate and standard guide rods.

In testing, we found that; if you dropped the guide rods "just right", the nitriding made them too fragile and they "could" crack or shear from the back plate.... Its an easy fix... don't drop them ;-)

Whomever buys these first limited rifles will get a free replacement back plate, guide rods, improved return springs and a steel cocking plate... all easy to swap, sent out automatically.

What you do not get is a new gas block. There really is zero reason to swap the gas block on the existing rifle as it works great. If you want an adjustable gas block, wait till February.

We have also asked SAI to sell us parts and they have agreed, so by mid-Jan, we should also have a complete listing of SAI parts on our websites and in-store. We will NOT be selling receiver sets at this time.

On a different note; we have asked SAI to also make us a smallish run of 7075 T6 receiver sets. These will be delivered in Feb/Mar... pricing to be determined later as they have not quoted us yet.
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40 rifles in “total”, not today. …
 
TSE JR said:
Expect to see them before the new year... The only screwing us up right now is shipping.
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Indeed, if anything is coming through Canada Post, Christmas is combining with staff going on unpaid leave to avoid the a vaccine to make a complete shipping poo storm. I've heard a third of the Edmonton processors are not working, and even Lamont had its post office closed back at the end of November (though I think they've brought in a replacement worker since) , https://globalnews.ca/news/8411803/canada-post-covid-vaccine-mandate-parcel-service/ .

When you finally are able to sell the rifles, congratulations on being the first to bring a "Gucci" 180 to the market!
 
So I believe that "several hundred a month" production numbers have been mentioned. You're selling 40 at first, how many a month from january onwards?
 
TSE JR said:
To clarify: The plan is to release about 40 rifles in total initially. this will be a mixture of MOE Grey, MOE FDE and Zhukov Folding (Blk). They will come out the same day at The Shooting Edge (Calgary) and Target Sports (Gormley)

These rifles all work as is, otherwise they would not be released ;-)

These will have the full pencil barrel, non-adjustable gas blocks and an aluminum cocking plate and standard guide rods.

In testing, we found that; if you dropped the guide rods "just right", the nitriding made them too fragile and they "could" crack or shear from the back plate.... Its an easy fix... don't drop them ;-)

Whomever buys these first limited rifles will get a free replacement back plate, guide rods, improved return springs and a steel cocking plate... all easy to swap, sent out automatically.

What you do not get is a new gas block. There really is zero reason to swap the gas block on the existing rifle as it works great. If you want an adjustable gas block, wait till February.

We have also asked SAI to sell us parts and they have agreed, so by mid-Jan, we should also have a complete listing of SAI parts on our websites and in-store. We will NOT be selling receiver sets at this time.

On a different note; we have asked SAI to also make us a smallish run of 7075 T6 receiver sets. These will be delivered in Feb/Mar... pricing to be determined later as they have not quoted us yet.

For those thinking about the MK3; that is 6+ months away. The plan is to get these out, and stabilize before moving on.
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Thank you for taking the 7075 T6 sets into consideration, much appreciated.
 
TSE JR said:
To clarify: The plan is to release about 40 rifles in total initially. this will be a mixture of MOE Grey, MOE FDE and Zhukov Folding (Blk). They will come out the same day at The Shooting Edge (Calgary) and Target Sports (Gormley)

These rifles all work as is, otherwise they would not be released ;-)

These will have the full pencil barrel, non-adjustable gas blocks and an aluminum cocking plate and standard guide rods.

In testing, we found that; if you dropped the guide rods "just right", the nitriding made them too fragile and they "could" crack or shear from the back plate.... Its an easy fix... don't drop them ;-)

Whomever buys these first limited rifles will get a free replacement back plate, guide rods, improved return springs and a steel cocking plate... all easy to swap, sent out automatically.

What you do not get is a new gas block. There really is zero reason to swap the gas block on the existing rifle as it works great. If you want an adjustable gas block, wait till February.

We have also asked SAI to sell us parts and they have agreed, so by mid-Jan, we should also have a complete listing of SAI parts on our websites and in-store. We will NOT be selling receiver sets at this time.

On a different note; we have asked SAI to also make us a smallish run of 7075 T6 receiver sets. These will be delivered in Feb/Mar... pricing to be determined later as they have not quoted us yet.

For those thinking about the MK3; that is 6+ months away. The plan is to get these out, and stabilize before moving on.
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So to clarify - 40 rifles initially, then a 6 month wait for reatock? That sucks :/
 
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp said:
So to clarify - 40 rifles initially, then a 6 month wait for reatock? That sucks :/
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My understanding is that the first 40 will be the rilfes with the "gen1" fluted barrels and "gen1" gasblocks with every mk2 afterwards using the mid profile barrel and updated gasblock with a future mk3 down the line featuring the adjustable gasblock, dustcover and other such tweaks.
I have my eye on the fluted pencil be >weight but if I miss that boat I'll take the mid profile its only a 4oz difference.
 
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DaveMachine said:
This may have been asked and answered already, but with AR barrel compatiblity, any chance we'll see shorter pistons for range-toy barrels and type 2 grendel bolts for a longer range NR blaster?
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It will be interesting to see if someone can manufacture an R18 upper that will accept MC X BGC, interchangeable trunion and barrel/ gas system. There are 3000 of these things floating around in Canada.
 
greentips said:
I will be interested to see if someone can manufacture an R18 upper that will accept MC X BGC, interchangeable trunion and barrel/ gas system. There are 3000 of these things floating around in Canada.
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I would definitely love to be able to put my chunk of useless metal too good use if they were able to make that work.

Brandon
 
Medium-weight, Fluted Barrels are rolling off of the production line as we speak for the first batch of production R18s as we speak. Other critical components are also being machined in several locations Canada wide. Speaking with the Production Manager for SAI's Canadian R18 manufacture, sales of the Production Rifles ought to realistically commence in early February 2022 at a forecast initial production rate of approximately 200 units per month, with further capacity increases planned if warranted by sales. The 40 (or so) R18 Pencil Barrel rifles will be sold to those on the waiting list between now and the start of production sales.
 
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