I have no problem with the pricing here. If someone doesn't want to pay swiss prices, buy a 180 pattern rifle. What's marks saying is probably true for firearms but I'm not sure that it's correct for the people bringing in powder and components. I find it hard to believe that the price to make a pound of Varget has gone up 5x in four years.
"A gun is not a weapon, Marge, it's a tool. Like a butcher's knife or a harpoon, or...or an alligator."
CCFR/NFA Member
Everything Swiss is f--king expensive why would their firearms be any different? Christ, a Toblerone chocolate bar is like ten bucks!
If you want quality you gotta buck up. If you want cheap semis go buy another 180 clone... or an sks.
BTW, the GHM9 is the "cheapy" of the B&T products and is a darn good shooter from my experience. That said, I'm still on the fence for another semi .308. Torn between the B&T and the Tavor...
The APC308 is arguably the nicest semi-auto large-calibre rifle that I have ever fired. It is not necessarily the most accurate, as that honour goes to my Colt USA LE-901 "AR-10 Style" rifle which apparently has no sporting purpose despite out-grouping most precision bolt-action rifles. Nor is the APC308 the lightest-weight of the "battle rifle" genre, as that distinction still belongs to the lightweight original AR-10 rifle. That being said, the APC308 is plenty accurate (sub-MOA 5-round groups at 100m with 168gr FGMM ammo) and not too heavy so long as you don't load it down with a bipod, flashlight, etc. A lightweight optic is about all you'd want to add if you intend to walk around in the woods hunting with the APC308. Reliabililty with numerous different brands of commercial ammo as well as South African surplus has been exceptional - 100%, so nothing to complain about in that important regard. Perceived recoil is light for .308, no doubt a combined function of the rifle's weight as well as its patented Hydraulic Buffer.
Depending on what you have now, I would likely still highly recommend giving the APC308 a serious look. They are a fine shooter and a genuine work of the firearms designer and manufacturers' art.
Mark C
Yer twisting my rubber arm there Mark lol. The Swiss itch has to be scratched regularly.
All my .308 semis are in the penalty box and I had high hopes for my custom Stag 10 which has never seen the light of day thanks to the Turd.
I shot a friends .308 Tavor. So-so accurate and more than a bit obnoxious with the muzzle blast. Maybe due to the barrel being so much closer to the shooter I suspect. (Muzzle break doesn't go past range bench side baffles?)
No gouging? Are you serious? There is an evident gouging. Just make the exercice to look at the prices before OIC and prices after it. Can someone explain me how the Sks went from 180$ to 500$ in not even 3 years (just taking a simple exemple here). There is definitely someone taking advantage of the Gouging happening in Canada, and it’s not us, the gun community.
…….
Last edited by gvanzeggelaar; 03-27-2022 at 08:23 AM.
Last edited by bacardi; 03-27-2022 at 12:08 PM.
One gun or more per citizen keep tyranny at bay