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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron SS View Post
    That depends on what you mean by paying in cash.

    There is nothing in the regulations that suggest a transaction would be subject to different rules depending on the method of payment.

    If you are suggesting that a business would simply ignore the rules for a cash deal, I doubt you are going to find a business willing to risk their entire business, and their employees well being on a single cash sale.

    No one here is going to be giving you advice on how to skirt the rules.

    Im curious thoigh, that if the Government is sending all these letters with information on the new regulations to people who sell guns, I wonder if the government is sending these letters and regulations to all tue straw purchasers, smugglers, traffickers and domestic theifs who provide firearms the gangbangers doing all the violent crime.
    What I was trying to convey, is that if you pay cash at the time of the transaction which takes place before May 18, then the dealer processing a credit card payment on May 18 or 19 would be avoided. If you have paid for the item on say May 14 but take delivery after may 18 does that not circumvent the required communication with the CFP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meadowmuffin3 View Post
    What I was trying to convey, is that if you pay cash at the time of the transaction which takes place before May 18, then the dealer processing a credit card payment on May 18 or 19 would be avoided. If you have paid for the item on say May 14 but take delivery after may 18 does that not circumvent the required communication with the CFP?
    According to SFRC as soon as they check your PAL is valid (there is an online portal for retailers to do that) you're good to go. The date your credit card gets charged or they ship it doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meadowmuffin3 View Post
    What I was trying to convey, is that if you pay cash at the time of the transaction which takes place before May 18, then the dealer processing a credit card payment on May 18 or 19 would be avoided. If you have paid for the item on say May 14 but take delivery after may 18 does that not circumvent the required communication with the CFP?
    Ah. Thank you for clarifying.

    Like I said. The firearms act mostly concerns itself with possession, rather than ownership. "Transfer" as it relates to non restricted firearms is likely to be interpreted as transfer of possession rather than ownership.

    While a cash payment might affect the creation of evidence that could be used against you, im not convinced that it would change the legality of the transfer of a firearm after may 18.

    What the law says, what a judge will eventually determine, and what the CFP will do in the meantime can be and often are three entirely different things.

    No one can say for sure.
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