Amendment G4 to Bill C-21 is sweeping ban on semi auto shotguns AND rifles

[scout_289]

The gun organizations utter failure to reinforce success where they find it, and the utter travesty of our community backstabbing two NDP MPs from Northern Ontario who had the courage to vote against their party and vote to repeal the Non Restricted gun Registry was the nail in the coffin for the NDP. After that they have been emphatically anti gun. People want to weep and wail and gnash their teeth about the NDP but it is 100% our own fault that the NDP don't care about us. We taught them that.

It confounds me that some posters correctly recognize the underlying factors that predictably resulted in our dilemma and yet are unable to align with the potential that there are other solutions apart from the one that involves personal risk of criminal sanction, loss of income, loss of freedom to travel, financial ruin and even death at the hands of trigger happy individuals?

This isn't Iran; smart people in this country could out maneuver the Liberals if we put our mind to it .........

[cottonpound]

Selling privileges/rights of Canadians in the benefit of your own regional political agendas, should be something that Canadians should not support.
Regardless if you use or not such privileges/rights.

When a politician tells you that they will address your problems by taking your rights/privileges, you can rest assure that your problem will not be addressed. However, you will wake up later to find out that you cannot do certain things anymore or that you will have some of your property confiscated.

As to the BLOC/NDP, your choice to support this legislation is a shame.
This would not be possible if it was not for your choice to waste your chance to question that.

[Therapy]

It blows my F'ing mind that a legal firearm owner would still vote Liberal, but I guess I'm coming to terms with the fact that this country is full of oxy-MORONS.

It blows my mind any Canadian would vote liberal. Firearms rights aside, the arrogant lying liberals have ####ed up canada and we have too many voters in the east that don’t recognize that.

[silver69]

I wonder what our brethren Nations and or the Canadian Union of Indian chiefs will have to say about this? Going to be interesting to see how the liberals will tell our indigenous Brothers and sisters that they have to give up their firearms because it's the law and they said so? Interesting times we are moving into very interesting times.

[polskiogorki]

Counselling illegal action is contrary to the forum rules.

There's also a downside to breaking a law, especially a criminal law. Presumably the author of the original post is ready to be taken away in handcuffs and prosecuted to the full extent as an example for others to follow?

Trudeau will be looking for a "few good men" to throw th ebook at so he can "take them out and show us how big they are".

Some of us need to stand up and deal with the outcome. Obviously you are not one of them.

[Bfranklin]

And yet there are still hundreds of thousands of gun owners who vote liberal, hundreds of thousands of gun owners who want to play nice, call themselves law abiding, and continuously try to jump through the governments hopes. Even today, a thousand people will call the CFP and ask for a transfer number to sell their 'non-restricted' property. Hundreds of people will phone for an ATT to take their mail to the post office. Someone will call the RCMP and ask them 'is this legal'.

The relentless political beatings levelled against gun owners every time the liberals have a bad news day will only stop when gun owners stop turning the other cheek.

Marijuana was illegal for 80 years. Millions of Canadians smoked it openly, including having protests on parliament hill. Marijuana is now legal.
Prostitution was illegal for 100 years. Prostitutes could be seen on street corners in every major city and openly defied police. Prostitution is now legal.
Sodomy used to be illegal since confederation. Both hetero and gay couples did what they wanted, and cared not for what the law said. Sodomy is now legal.
Segregation used to be legal. People of 'colour' openly and bravely sat in 'whites only' areas, in courageous civil disobedience. Segregation has now been struck down as unconstition.

And on and on and on. Every single major civil rights victory of the last hundred years has come on the backs of people who simply refused to follow unjust laws.

Imagine a world where 2022 was the year gun owners said enough is enough. Imagine everyone stopped renewing their license. 400,000 licenses will expire this year and not be renewed. By 2027 there are no license holders left in Canada. The phones at the CFC are silent. No one asking for ATTs. No one calling the SFSS for opinions about whats classified as what. The CFOs twittle their thumbs because no one needs an ATT.

Every business in Canada lets their license lapse, but continues to sell whatever firearms they can smuggle into the country. People make and sell their own ammunition to their friends. Bootleggers looking to cater to the non violent grey market do fly by night operations. All Gun smiths pack their businesses up in mobile cube vans. The entire firearm industry goes grey. Not legal. But not criminally violent.

The government spends 200 million every year sustaining the Canadian Firearms Program which year after year does precisely nothing.

How long before the government repeals the firearms act in its entirety? Or the courts strike down those portions are utterly unenforceable and unworkable? or unconstitutional?

The government does not repeal legislation that people comply with. Compliance is always relied upon as proof of a program's success. Non-compliance, is the only thing that causes courts and governments to change direction.

This post is not legal advice. Just a history lesson.

This cannot be quoted too many times.

[Bfranklin]

Counselling illegal action is contrary to the forum rules.

There's also a downside to breaking a law, especially a criminal law. Presumably the author of the original post is ready to be taken away in handcuffs and prosecuted to the full extent as an example for others to follow?

Trudeau will be looking for a "few good men" to throw th ebook at so he can "take them out and show us how big they are".

I believe you were mentioned in one of the first sentence of said post.

[scout_289]

This is not good for Canadians. First our guns then our lives. Look at the past. This has happened in many communist country's.

Well I for one get it. My recent comment published din the Globe & Mail attracted a lot of support. Here's what I wrote:

" Policing the internet.
. Taking all the guns.
. Financing the MSM.
. "Revisiting" the terms for the EA.
. JT is a WEF "Young Leader".
. Labelling make believe enemies.
. Buying votes by poll, IA software and ideology as a guide.
. Expressing admiration for a dictatorship.

Anyone else see where this is going?"

Having been a this game for five decades here's what I posted when it looked like Trudeau was getting the brass ring:

"Just for reference, I wrote this in 2015 before the election with my predictions of where we would be during a Liberal hegemony:


In addition to the LPC peeking into your gun cabinet and telling you what you can and can't have:
- the Green Shaft will reappear and your cost of energy will go through the roof. This will bootstrap into everything that you buy (all that we eat, drink, live in, dress with and play with comes to us in a truck).
- social correctness changes over the last decade will ramp up exponentially. Some will be good and some will continue to erode what many of us believe in.`
- law & order will revert to Jean-Pierre Goyer's thesis of coddling the criminal and letting the public take the risk
- we'll lose everything in the North because Putin will take one look at Trudeau as a potential adversary, say something in Russian and it will all be over. Right now Vladimir knows that Harper bites hard.
- universal day care under federal standards (if you want to rule a country, get a hold on the children)
- Kelowna Accord x 2 = $10 billion with no strings attached so that the bureaucrats, lawyers, Chiefs and band councils of the Indian Industry can travel and feast. The poor people for whom the money was meant can be put on the shelf until their plight is needed to get the next round of financing.
- the Liberal Senators will be welcomed back with open arms as the Senate gets stacked with LPC friendly members to assure the passage of the Liberal agenda.
- drug laws will be loosened as we embark on another noble social experiment with our youth.
- the LPC will put in on-line voting to ensure that everyone who is too lazy to get off their arse can click the box that says "LPC" for the next three elections
- Canada will go back to being a peacekeeper with a neutered military and Lloyd Axeworthy wanna be's will stomp the globe shopping soft power with Mr. Moon. They'll probably stay out of Syria though, too dangerous.
- the USA will probably elect a harder nosed POTUS, maybe even a Republican. And if the LPC is afraid to take a stance on anything remotely associated to USA homeland security you can expect trade and travel to become unbelievably problematic.
- under the LPC I do not expect good outcomes for any of the trade treaties now in the works. Like Kyoto where Chretien signed our life away without a simper in order to avoid controversy we might end up on the short end of the trade front. Especially if evil "carbon" becomes part of the calculation.
- the UN will be more than welcome so that any social engineering changes that the LPC ants to make can be blamed on the UN "special envoys"
- If the LPC had been in power when the Moncton tragedy (as well as St. Albert, Edmonton etc) unfolded we would have been swamped with cries for more control.

not bad for a six (now seven) year peek ahead into the future ................"

I was actually so stupid as to think that it might help to mobilize this group and use the time we had left to beat Trudeau at his own game.

Dumb eh?

[Mr_Mike]

They are racing against time to disarm you.
All of the events around us are pointing towards a major enginrered collapse of the supply chains, food supply, banking system...etc

They have enpowered the real, actual street criminals to do pretty much anything they want without any fear of punishment...they are signalling this every time they open their woke WEF mouths.

You are their political enemy #1...they don't want you to be able to defend yourself and your family, once the social justice thugs come to your door.
And they deffinitelly don't want you to defend yourself as they come to take you to the "re-education camp" (or worse), after they froze or sieze all of your assets after you made a social media post that is not compatible with their narratives..

These anti human psychopaths need to implement their Great Reset, where a handfull of unelected individuals holds all the balance of global power.
And you are standing in their way.

Just immagine these types of attacks on any other group of people.
They won't say it out loud yet, but it is self evident from everything they do.
They want you on that cattle train ASAP.

They only need a handfull of cricket eating, MSM brainwashed drones to support the new regime...there is no place for the likes of you in their new, Orwellian society.

they'll label you insane for wanting to keep your stuff

then they'll euthanize the insane (it's healthcare after all)

meanwhile they protect pedo's and have them author sex-ed curricula

[pygmalion2020]

I wonder what our brethren Nations and or the Canadian Union of Indian chiefs will have to say about this? Going to be interesting to see how the liberals will tell our indigenous Brothers and sisters that they have to give up their firearms because it's the law and they said so? Interesting times we are moving into very interesting times.

I can all but guarantee there will be an exemption for Aboriginal people just like there was in the may 2020 ban.