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Thread: Amendment G4 to Bill C-21 is sweeping ban on semi auto shotguns AND rifles

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfirefighter View Post
    I sold my benelli m4 during COVID and regretted it. I am looking at purchasing another. Do I have time to wait until the new year to do so? Is spring the earliest they can pass these new amendments to the bill? Or can they reclassify some firearms like they did with the OIC firearms ?
    Buy another Benelli M4 ASAP, do not worry about this mumble jumble legislation

    They way it stands and what I have been reading/watching videos C21 will not pass as the NDP and even a few Liberals themselves agree that this is a big time over reach and are disgusted with what has been thrown in last minute

    Take advantage of all of all the scardy cats that are selling their "possible" C 21 prohibs, I have seen M4s BNIB as low as 1800$ on EE which is a score, offer less iam sure one of the fear mongers will take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfirefighter View Post
    I sold my benelli m4 during COVID and regretted it. I am looking at purchasing another. Do I have time to wait until the new year to do so? Is spring the earliest they can pass these new amendments to the bill? Or can they reclassify some firearms like they did with the OIC firearms ?
    The Benelli M4 is not on the ban list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderhog View Post
    The Benelli M4 is not on the ban list.
    At this point I have scrolled thru the "new ban list" only once, and it was a fast scroll......

    It made no sense to me; how when I began reading it everything was lumped together with the the old May 2020 OIC, I personally did not see anything new added, just the old OIC list.

    And with this complete government overreach iam never going to scroll thru that list again and just continue on with business as usual.

    Iam hearing back and forth conflicting posts on CGN saying it's on the "new list"

    Why have I seen 10 to 15 M4s on EE for sale I the last week ?

    People are scared they might get banned

    Before this "new list" dropped you couldn't get one anywhere in Canada as Noone was selling them.

    ignorance is bliss

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    Quote Originally Posted by washago View Post
    “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnster001 View Post
    I got that same survey and dutifully filled it out in the hope that they'd added a write-in "other" field. No such luck, but I do intend to let them know that this, along with a couple of other Lieberal pit-Canadians-against-each-other policies are make-or-break for my CPC membership. I will vote for whichever leader supports repealing this legislation, and my political donations will follow suit.
    Roger that. I've written the following for the attention of Poilievre himself (whom I met once a while ago when he was stumping in my neck of the woods) since there is no CPC candidate in the district at the moment.

    While I trust his staff, I don't trust the party.

    Having sifted the various emails and websites can't figure out where to send it.

    I don't mind a politician dismissing me as a crackpot (i.e., not coming out publicly in favour of the issue) as long as s/h/it's willing to throw away my vote as well. Rather be rejected by Poilievre rather than some flunky in the bowels of the CPC with no influence over the direction of the country (except through sabotage--the last refuge of vengeful flunkies everywhere).

    Any suggestions?

    To whom it may concern,

    I was bemused and a little chagrined after reading to the bottom of the list of topics in your recent "Issue Survey" to us CPC members ("Tell us what matters to you") to discover the one pressing topic I'm actually passionate about did not make the cut.

    The 9 topics that did make the list are within the pedestrian purview of government. The fact that they have become issues simply underscores the fact the current government is unfit--no debate from me. In my opinion however, incompetence aside government shows signs of transitioning from being a necessary evil to simply evil. In other words, in my opinion the survey does not accommodate larger issues unique to this government and perhaps to these times.

    In my case I will vote for a government that promises to restore firearm ownership rights to where they were before the agenda-driven Orwellian mob seized power, as meagre I consider those rights to be, but in the spirit of compromise let's call our former rights "fair".

    The ban-happy socialist compact might well have banned golf as guns (lets say, "for the deleterious effect on biodiversity") to the same effect: upset millions of law abiding voters, with otherwise zero effect on pretty much anything, the difference being in the case of gun ownership rights perhaps slouching a little nearer totalitarianism.

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    Is the CZ 512 on the proposed list?
    What goes around, is all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman9184 View Post
    Is the CZ 512 on the proposed list?
    https://firearmrights.ca/wp-content/...1/the-list.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by medvedqc View Post
    that s not true. what about handguns?
    Yes, you are right about mags made for handguns.
    NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO DISCLOSE “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” Cesare Beccaria

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    This assault thread should be banned.

    These assault letters and even my assault fingers.

    This is an assault world when i think of it.

    Holy F that is retarded....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman9184 View Post
    Is the CZ 512 on the proposed list?
    Yes. Next?
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