How about ONE LARGE EFFECTIVE lobby group?

[CoonT]

The one prerequisite for an effective lobby group is that it represent people who share a goal.

Sadly, firearms owners do not!

There's a difference between a common goal and a collection of self-interests.

At the core our common goal is the same. The problem is, that we take our 'common core' and coat it in endless layers of personalized crap.

We need to chip away all the excess crap coating, and get down to the basics of firearm's ownership, and fight from there. 'We're gun owners. We own guns.' That's the fight. Nothing more.


Don't get dragged into talking about CCW, or safety classes, or barrel lengths, or actions, or MSM headlines. Soon as we do that we fall apart, because beyond that, we're too diverse to even be called an 'us'.

[CoonT]

lol. the problem is not with the "orgs" its with the cheap @$$ garbage that don't join them.

Every time I see a picture of a guy showing off his 50 grand collection, I want to chime in and ask him how much he ever donated to any org or political party. Rhetorical question, because the answer would very likely be no. The many gun owners, quite happy to sacrifice the rights of the few gun owners. Time and time again.

[apexanimal]

lol. the problem is not with the "orgs" its with the cheap @$$ garbage that don't join them.

Insanely over the top rhetoric does way more harm than good fyi. People who dont join gun orgs arent "garbage" lmao. Why is everything so Insanely hyperbolic. Its all so tiresome.

[1ABNDT]

Insanely over the top rhetoric does way more harm than good fyi. People who dont join gun orgs arent "garbage" lmao. Why is everything so Insanely hyperbolic. Its all so tiresome.

fyi, what does more harm than good is not joining then complaining how the orgs need to do more. "hot garbage"

[CLW .45]

There's a difference between a common goal and a collection of self-interests.

At the core our common goal is the same. The problem is, that we take our 'common core' and coat it in endless layers of personalized crap.

We need to chip away all the excess crap coating, and get down to the basics of firearm's ownership, and fight from there. 'We're gun owners. We own guns.' That's the fight. Nothing more.


Don't get dragged into talking about CCW, or safety classes, or barrel lengths, or actions, or MSM headlines. Soon as we do that we fall apart, because beyond that, we're too diverse to even be called an 'us'.

You are suggesting that we do what has been an abject failure for well over a half century.

If we don’t know what our neighbours want, and support that, we continue to lose!

[CoonT]

You are suggesting that we do what has been an abject failure for well over a half century.

If we don’t know what our neighbours want, and support that, we continue to lose!

Some of your gun owning neighbors don't want CCW. Are you supporting them in their fight (as gun owners) to keep concealed carry off our streets?




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[CLW .45]

Some of your gun owning neighbors don't want CCW. Are you supporting them in their fight (as gun owners) to keep concealed carry off our streets?

No.

I don’t support restricting firearms use, carriage, and possession.

Scumbag violent criminals are carrying concealed all the time.

Many of my neighbours who don’t own guns want to carry to protect their loved ones.

The law in Canada has always had provisions for carry to protect life.

If you don’t want to carry, don’t.

We will support you.

If you don’t support your neighbours, you are a very large part of the problem!

[Northern Shooter]

Every org should throw their hat in with the CCFR. They are the most prominent, recognised, and organized group we have fighting for us.

[CLW .45]

Every org should throw their hat in with the CCFR. They are the most prominent, recognised, and organized group we have fighting for us.

Every org should throw their hat in with the org that supports one of the primary bricks in the wall separating Canadians from lawful ownership?

Licencing.

Hard pass!