Epps on gunnuts?

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Just so you know I have no bias against EPPS I have bought at least a dozen guns from them and ammo over the years. But no more.

Just wondering how they are still on gun nuts? Marstar was kicked off for a few years for far less then what Epps has done to the community.
 
JTF# said:
Just so you know I have no bias against EPPS I have bought at least a dozen guns from them and ammo over the years. But no more.

Just wondering how they are still on gun nuts? Marstar was kicked off for a few years for far less then what Epps has done to the community.
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I am wondering the same thing. They shouldn’t be here
 
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They're not the only ones involved in the CSAAA fiasco who are sponsors on here. SFRC, Wolverine... evidently CGN doesn't officially care one way or the other. Maybe they have figured they will lose too much in sponsorship fees if they boot them off, or have some sort of contract.
 
For those of us that aren't on here very day, what have they done? They are my local gun store so curious.
 
JTF# said:
Just so you know I have no bias against EPPS I have bought at least a dozen guns from them and ammo over the years. But no more.

Just wondering how they are still on gun nuts? Marstar was kicked off for a few years for far less then what Epps has done to the community.
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Marstar was kicked off for selling Garands that were unsafe and wouldn't refund people's money.
 
griffin86 said:
Marstar was kicked off for selling Garands that were unsafe and wouldn't refund people's money.
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The previous owner hyped 7.62 Garands from Italy like he'd found some forgotten container. They were ordinary Danish (?) or Italian (?) recievers with 7.62 barrels installed, and the QC was what you'd expect of a log cabin built with a dull chainsaw run by two drunks after dark. Absolutely criminal. The upshot was Marstar was run off CGN; and the previous owner had to sell the business. The new operators are significantly better retailers. The community disciplined itself.

What Wes at Epps did was on par but worse. He signed a commercial contract with Public Safety on behalf of an industry association. He very likely hoodwinked the other prominent members. I do not believe many of the other businesses whose names are getting splashed around were aware of his dealmaking or would have agreed had they known the extent that he was in bed with the feds.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
The previous owner hyped 7.62 Garands from Italy like he'd found some forgotten container. They were ordinary Danish (?) or Italian (?) recievers with 7.62 barrels installed, and the QC was what you'd expect of a log cabin built with a dull chainsaw run by two drunks after dark. Absolutely criminal. The upshot was Marstar was run off CGN; and the previous owner had to sell the business. The new operators are significantly better retailers. The community disciplined itself.

What Wes at Epps did was on par but worse. He signed a commercial contract with Public Safety on behalf of an industry association. He very likely hoodwinked the other prominent members. I do not believe many of the other businesses whose names are getting splashed around were aware of his dealmaking or would have agreed had they known the extent that he was in bed with the feds.
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What makes you think the other members did not know? Their website gloats about it as “getting a fair deal for businesses”. They would have to have known what was being proposed.
 
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Should be noted that that’s with the previous owner. Night and day difference with the current ownership group.
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Just to set the record straight, I understand that Marstar ownership was in transition when that gong show went down, and it was the current owner that was wanting to not refund the purchase price (in my case at least), it wasn't until faced with a VISA dispute that John stepped up, lamented, and refunded the cost 100%
 
Zortron said:
What makes you think the other members did not know? Their website gloats about it as “getting a fair deal for businesses”. They would have to have known what was being proposed.
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Do I know for sure? No. Not my circus or my monkeys. The grubby details of the contract were more complicated than simply saying, 'we've got a contract with Public Safety to buy you OIC effected inventory'. My opinion (and mine alone) is Wes played the industry association to get a $700,000 deal in place, but Public Safety hoodwinked Wes with a worse deal than anyone in industry would have accepted. First thing on a Monday morning. Says Public Safety, 'yeah, lets get all the attention on the contract so we can all look like fairminded players, and no one look at SECU or the stupidity they're laying down.'
 
The whole thing is sketchy and shrouded in smoke. Was he trying to score a fat cash payday and sold his soul? Was he trying to help struggling businesses get some of their costs back so they can stay afloat? Could be one or the other, a mix of both, or a totally different circumstance that I'm unaware of and don't have any pertinent facts regarding.

I'm going to wait until the smoke clears a bit before I make my personal call on this thing.
 
Read the contract. What is without doubt is that Wes, through the CSAAA, signed a contract with Public Safety -- in secret -- for $700,000 in costs which the Liberals paraded around as proof positive that the industry supported C-21 and the confiscation. The CSAAA gave them that PR score.

The contract also requires that the CSAAA rat out business who are non-compliant with the government's confiscation scheme every 2 weeks. It also requires the CSAAA to verify destruction of firearms. Apparently, the CSAAA also gets commission for every business they get on board the Liberal plan. Wes lied through his teeth.
 
CGN is a business.
EPPS likely has a contract with CGN display the banner and is paid in full up to a certain date
 
Milas said:
For those of us that aren't on here very day, what have they done? They are my local gun store so curious.
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bdft said:
Yeah, what's the story. I've been out in the bush.
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Odd Shot said:
Read the contract. What is without doubt is that Wes, through the CSAAA, signed a contract with Public Safety -- in secret -- for $700,000 in costs which the Liberals paraded around as proof positive that the industry supported C-21 and the confiscation. The CSAAA gave them that PR score.

The contract also requires that the CSAAA rat out business who are non-compliant with the government's confiscation scheme every 2 weeks. It also requires the CSAAA to verify destruction of firearms. Apparently, the CSAAA also gets commission for every business they get on board the Liberal plan. Wes lied through his teeth.
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This pretty much
 
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