Any hope bringing in DESERT TECH TREK- 22 - 10/22 BULL-PUP

[HeadDamage]

OK here's a bit of a legal mind bender. A kit that converts a rifle to a bullpup is prohibited. A kit that converts a pistol to a bullpup is OK because you are not converting a rifle. Could you therefore make a kit that converts the ruger 10/22 challenger pistol to a bullpup?
Incidentally with the freezing of pistol sales in Canada does this mean that the 10/22 pistol magazine is not widely available in Canada and that the 10/22 rifle can revert to their original capacity magazines?

I think someone's head just exploded at the RCMP firearms department.

[Far North]

If brains were dynamite the folks at the rcmp firearms department wouldn't have enough to blow their noses.

[scott]

OK here's a bit of a legal mind bender. A kit that converts a rifle to a bullpup is prohibited. A kit that converts a pistol to a bullpup is OK because you are not converting a rifle. Could you therefore make a kit that converts the ruger 10/22 challenger pistol to a bullpup?
Incidentally with the freezing of pistol sales in Canada does this mean that the 10/22 pistol magazine is not widely available in Canada and that the 10/22 rifle can revert to their original capacity magazines?

Everyone is still using 10rd ar mags. So if 10/22 handguns are no longer widely available. Neither are ar handguns. So you can only have one or the other depending on those handguns being considered available or not.

[scott]

Well the 10/22 magazine issue was a pretty flimsy argument from the RCMP. It was going to be ripped to shreds in the court case, but Ruger wouldn't play ball with the parties that were bringing the suit against the RCMP so the whole thing fell apart.

By law the butler creek 25rd mags are still legal. They were designed for a rifle. The patent proves that. The ruger 25rd mags are not legal. They were designed for a rifle and a hand gun. It should be easy to win in court using butler creek mags. But never tested. And i don’t want to be the one tested on….

I don’t know why ruger would need to be involved.

[Blackcats]

By law the butler creek 25rd mags are still legal. They were designed for a rifle. The patent proves that. The ruger 25rd mags are not legal. They were designed for a rifle and a hand gun. It should be easy to win in court using butler creek mags. But never tested. And i don’t want to be the one tested on….

I don’t know why ruger would need to be involved.

I believe it was Butler Creek that was the party in question not Ruger .

[redflagmat]

OK here's a bit of a legal mind bender. A kit that converts a rifle to a bullpup is prohibited. A kit that converts a pistol to a bullpup is OK because you are not converting a rifle. Could you therefore make a kit that converts the ruger 10/22 challenger pistol to a bullpup?
Incidentally with the freezing of pistol sales in Canada does this mean that the 10/22 pistol magazine is not widely available in Canada and that the 10/22 rifle can revert to their original capacity magazines?

Exactly. These are legal in Canada. Glock Bullpup below.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...nada-meta-apex!

[brownbear53]

OK here's a bit of a legal mind bender. A kit that converts a rifle to a bullpup is prohibited. A kit that converts a pistol to a bullpup is OK because you are not converting a rifle. Could you therefore make a kit that converts the ruger 10/22 challenger pistol to a bullpup?
Incidentally with the freezing of pistol sales in Canada does this mean that the 10/22 pistol magazine is not widely available in Canada and that the 10/22 rifle can revert to their original capacity magazines?

Why do you think the pistol sales/transfer freeze has anything to do with magazines? they are two separate products governed by their own separate regulations....
If your accusation about not being available was true no store would be importing any pistol mags, which has yet to happen.
Just because something cannot be sold anymore does not mean you cant buy accessories or parts for it, take ARs for example, buying everything except the receivers is still legal, plenty of stores keep stock for the parts, they just have a smaller selection as the purchase rate has dropped.

[Dreu0429]

So is it legal or not?
What's the straightforward legally correct answer?

[Desjard]

So is it legal or not?
What's the straightforward legally correct answer?

In canada, firearms law is not straightforward.

[Shorerider]

So is it legal or not?
What's the straightforward legally correct answer?

It’s a bullpup stock for a rifle = prohibited.