S.Korean M1 Garands?

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Read over on another board that the Garands wont be going to the States because O doesn't want them or something. So Johnone something to check out, maybe?
 
the Americans will have to approve the transfer...if O doesn't want them...he won't release then to canada unless we get real lucky....
 
The last I heard was that dealers here were interested until they heard the prices being suggested by the South Koreans.
 
Here is a link to the article from yesterday about the US opposing the sale. Looks to be more State Department dreamn't up terrorist/gang/accident's paranoia!!!! Sounds like the evil anti's are up to the same thing south of the border.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/08/205_71329.html

Upon further investigation, I found out this. Which may or may not be the reason. If it is, then why didn't the government say this instead of the above crappy lies?

The Koreans cannot prove that they ever paid for all of those M1's with their own money.

"In the absence of such proof, the U.S. Government takes the position that the material was given to the Korea and therefore the U.S. Government is not going to allow them to sell the rifles and keep the money.

MAP grants are not "loans." The Koreans own the rifles - Lock stock and barrel. They can keep them until the end of time if they wish and your congressman cannot compel them to return them to the US. The only problem is when the Koreans decide they don't want to keep them anymore. They can either sell them and give the money, less packing costs, directly to the US government or they can return the rifles and bill the U.S. Government for the packing cost. This is unlikely to happen as the Koreans know these things are worth $500 - $1000 each on the US retail market and they want the money in their pocket, not the CMP's."
 
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The Korea Times quotes a wholesale value for the rifles similar to what I've read elsewhere- "...The per-unit price of the M1 rifle is about $220 and the carbine is more than $140, according to the ministry. "

Not sure what the typical wholesale (govt) to retail (local surplus store) markup is for this sort of transaction, but obviously the govt can't be expecting to get $1k per rifle....
 
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ghostntheshell said:
Man I'd love some surplus Garands.

I bought ONE years ago for 400ish.

I should have bought 10.
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I remember in the Mid 80's garands going for $150. They were brought in by Ontario Auto Mart from a deal with the North Vietnamize. They were apparently left behind after the War ended by the US. The US were arming the ARVN troops with them in the early part of the War.
 
Returned war surplus firearms

Not 100% sure, but I think I read something about U.S. Laws not allowing U.S. manufactured Military firearms back into the country.

Also, some of these Garands may have been cut down one inch off the buttstock to accomodate the smaller statured Koreans. That was a common modification. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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JP said:
Those were in very bad condition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My buddy still has his 1953 IH he got from Ontario Auto Mart and it still shoots great. Changed the stock after 20 yrs as the original was crap and very dry. For $150. you couldn't really complain. I remember they had a pile of 1911A1's to that when for a song.
 
Did you happen to see para. 6 of that:

"The second Obama administration objection is accidents. But in fact, increasing gun density in the United States has been associated with steeply declining rates of gun accidents. In 1948 there were .36 guns per person. (That is, about one gun for every three Americans.) By 2004, there was nearly one gun for every American. In 1948, there were 1.6 fatal gun accidents per 100,000 persons. By 2004, the rate had fallen by 86%, so that there were .22 fatal accidents per 100,000 persons." :eek:
 
Brordo said:
Did you happen to see para. 6 of that:

"The second Obama administration objection is accidents. But in fact, increasing gun density in the United States has been associated with steeply declining rates of gun accidents. In 1948 there were .36 guns per person. (That is, about one gun for every three Americans.) By 2004, there was nearly one gun for every American. In 1948, there were 1.6 fatal gun accidents per 100,000 persons. By 2004, the rate had fallen by 86%, so that there were .22 fatal accidents per 100,000 persons." :eek:
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maybe it's a Darwin thing?
 
I emailed John at Marstar about 10 days ago or so and have not had a reply. I asked if he knew anything about this situation. Hello John?
 
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