8 Bore Safari

8 Bore Bullets
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# 1 1270 Grain loaded to approx 1400 fps.. #2 1270 gr recovered from neck area of Ellie, fired in at approx 5 yds, Ellie was on his side and trying to get up entered through brisket, weight 1248 grains. #3,1270 gr my first rd, broad side through ribs at approx 45 yds, recovered under skin on further side, weight 1224 grains. #4 1150 RN bullet. #5 1150 gr recovered inside Hippo skull, weight 1032 grains. This bullet may have been close to 1600 fps!

All loads were black powder 11 dram and 11 dram+.
 
Keep the pictures and info coming, I think thats an amazing adventure.

And as I have no experience hunting, when you say that was the 27th bull on your 4th day, so that mean you hunted 27 animals, or 27 elephants specifically.

Mind blowing stuff as I have been to Africa and have seen the size of an elephant up close. To take one down just seems tremendous to me! Great stuff!
 
Thanks for all the comments, in answer to your questions;
All the animals were wild!
My only limit was max ivory of 70 lb per side.
All the meat was eaten by the local people.
The best tusk should be 65 -70 lb, the other 60 - 65 lb.
Trophies, all I wanted and could afford. I will have the ivory, the Buff will be a head/shoulder mount and I will have the Hippo's skull with his ivory in it.
He was the 27 bull Ellie that we saw but the first one who was a "shooter" as he had good ivory and we were in a position to stalk him.
 
Hello John,

Thanks for the answers to the questions. I am curious, as I understood Ivory could not be imported into Canada. How did you manage to do so/were you able to?

Cheers,
Drachenblut
 
flashG said:
Im a hunter..... but killing an elephant????......really????? ......really????
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Care to elaborate, chances are that the Money Mr.Wolverive spent on permits pays for the conservation of many other Elephants and other game animals.

If you have a problem with the legal taking of a game animal I would suggest you take up another sport. Or atleast not post in forums where others share their hunting stories.

Congratulations on an very fine Elephant Mr.Wolverine. Did you shoot it in the heart? I had read that the 8-bore pure lead slugs often had a hard time reaching the elephants brain.
 
Congratulations on a great hunt,and thanks for posting the pictures they are fantastic.I to would be interested in the price of your 8 bore.
Cheers Chris.
PS Maybe I should lend you my 600NE next time you go.
 
Wow!!!! That looks like an awesome hunt!!! I can't believe the size of your ivory! and with and 8 bore too!!!


The 8 bore slugs, are they made of pure lead or are they slightly hardened? Did you cast them yourself??
 
David and Chris, the Rogers Rock 8 Bore will be around $35,000.00, I have to work the exact price out. That will include a set of custom dies and 10 new unfired brass, I also have Black Powder load info. If you are intrested please e-mail me at John@wolverinesupplies.com I will be sorry to sell her, I have had a lot of fun with her, but it is time to start saving for my next safari.

Chris, thanks, but I will pass, your .600 NE is to much gun for me!
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Wow!!!! That looks like an awesome hunt!!! I can't believe the size of your ivory! and with and 8 bore too!!!


The 8 bore slugs, are they made of pure lead or are they slightly hardened? Did you cast them yourself??
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I purchased the bullets ready cast for $1 each. They are a lead alloy, very hard but based on my experance they wouldn't hurt to be even harder. A custom mold would be $3-400 dolllars and then I would be stuck with one weight and style. I have acess to 1000 gr round bulls and bullets up to 1650 grains. I did wimp out at them, and stayed with 1270 as a max.
 
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I use 530g (I think) hardened round balls out of my 12 gauge pump at about 1300fps. That is enough for me. I could not even imagine adding another 1000g on top of that along with the additional recoil of a heavy black powder charge. Yikes, no wonder those guns are 17lbs.

I once held a 12 bore paradoxed rifle, it was a light weight, probably for light charges for cats. I wish I could have bought it. It was an under lever. It was beautiful.
 
Drachenblut said:
Hello John,

Thanks for the answers to the questions. I am curious, as I understood Ivory could not be imported into Canada. How did you manage to do so/were you able to?

Cheers,
Drachenblut
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Legally hunted ivory with the correct permits can be imported into Canada. A CITES (Convention In Trading Endanger Species) permit is a "must" then there is no problem. Elephants are not an endangered species, in some areas the population is way too high and if the numbers are not reduced serious habitat destruction will take place. What is not generally understood is that when this habitat is destroyed, other species suffer seriously long before it effects the Elephant. The number of Ellie that can be harvested each year is strictly controlled. Over 70% of the money I paid will go directly into the local community.
 
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Avalonthas said:
??? what is the basis or point of your post.
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Maybe he doesn't know why people hunt elephant?

Why? What is your point? You going to insult or belittle him in some way?

Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
Care to elaborate,.....

If you have a problem with the legal taking of a game animal I would suggest you take up another sport. Or at least not post in forums where others share their hunting stories.

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Same to you. Why so defensive? He asked a question, he doesn't know why.
Why should he take up another sport? This is not the hunting forum, just so you know.

Care to elaborate why he has to give up hunting because you say so?

I don't know why someone hunts elephant either, So what vexatious comments will you 2 say about me?
 
rivetc78 said:
Maybe he doesn't know why people hunt elephant?

Why? What is your point? You going to insult or belittle him in some way?



Same to you. Why so defensive? He asked a question, he doesn't know why.
Why should he take up another sport? This is not the hunting forum, just so you know.

Care to elaborate why he has to give up hunting because you say so?

I don't know why someone hunts elephant either, So what vexatious comments will you 2 say about me?
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Because the tone of his asking this question is suggestive of it being immoral. "I'm a hunter, but an elaphant? Really????"

Take that crap to Rabble.ca.
 
rivetc78 said:
Maybe he doesn't know why people hunt elephant?

Why? What is your point? You going to insult or belittle him in some way?



Same to you. Why so defensive? He asked a question, he doesn't know why.
Why should he take up another sport? This is not the hunting forum, just so you know.

Care to elaborate why he has to give up hunting because you say so?

I don't know why someone hunts elephant either, So what vexatious comments will you 2 say about me?
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He already explained why though:

Elephants are not an endangered species, in some areas the population is way too high and if the numbers are not reduced serious habitat destruction will take place. What is not generally understood is that when this habitat is destroyed, other species suffer seriously long before it effects the Elephant. The number of Ellie that can be harvested each year is strictly controlled. Over 70% of the money I paid will go directly into the local community.
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I don't really care if other people do it, just like I don't care if people club seals. Doubt I could do it though but that doesn't mean others shouldn't and can't.
 
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