S&W M&P VTAC Pistol

VTAC sights have been known to lose the fibre optic tube in the front sights.Not to rain on your parade but it looks nice but other than the the sights, it is just an m&p 9 with a paint job. Save your 300 bucks and buy the m&p 9 range kit that comes with 3 mags, blade tech holster and ear plugs for 1/3 less of what you would pay for this. I was going to go the same route but the range kit is a better buy. I am not speaking from experience but the sights have an opening in them for the fibre optics rod...this spooks me out. It looks nice but the $300 difference over a regular m&p is a bit steep. That extra 300 bucks could go to 1000 rds of 9mm.Nothing some krylon paint couldn't do. Still a nice whip though.I knew of a person who also had the cz shadow and same thing with the front sight.Watch this series of vids. If your a holster draw kinda a person i can see these sights losing the rod. Side note..Sig p226 contrast sights are the best in the business... in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI0IniFh2Ro
 
^^^^ Ummm yeah, ok. If the sights crap out on me then i will just replace them. As for the "Economist" point of view, that may be good for you, as for myself, i've spent $300 on worse. So far, really liking the gun itself. Sights are quick to pick up. Good for me for the time being.
 
R700 said:
VTAC sights have been known to lose the fibre optic tube in the front sights.Not to rain on your parade but it looks nice but other than the the sights, it is just an m&p 9 with a paint job. Save your 300 bucks and buy the m&p 9 range kit that comes with 3 mags, blade tech holster and ear plugs for 1/3 less of what you would pay for this. I was going to go the same route but the range kit is a better buy. I am not speaking from experience but the sights have an opening in them for the fibre optics rod...this spooks me out. It looks nice but the $300 difference over a regular m&p is a bit steep. That extra 300 bucks could go to 1000 rds of 9mm.Nothing some krylon paint couldn't do. Still a nice whip though.I knew of a person who also had the cz shadow and same thing with the front sight.Watch this series of vids. If your a holster draw kinda a person i can see these sights losing the rod. Side note..Sig p226 contrast sights are the best in the business... in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI0IniFh2Ro
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That is a common problem with all fibre sights...... That is why you get so many spares when you buy one...... BTW the 'opening' you speak of is there to light get to the front sight so that it "lights up"

The $300 differance is in the sights and internals, not just the 'paint job'. Price out a decent set of aftermarket sights, an apex kit and an armco trigger job...... Then you will be close to the Vtac in the box.....

Cheers!
 
I don't care what he says. I love this pistol. I already have a standard that I've put stuff into and after putting out the $300 extra, I still feel I bought a deal. How much do you pay for a P226R, these days? Exactly! Should I be upset that I spent the same amount of money on that? I don't think so. I like my VTAC and my regular M&P better then any SigSauer I've ever owned. Or any other pistol, for that matter. As was said earlier, I've spent more money on things that were not as pleasing or just plain rediculous. This discussion is about some people who were excited to get their VTAC. Everyone has a different oppinion on everything. Like my mom used to say, "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!" Lol!

So?
Who here still loves their VTAC?
 
Dude in G.P. said:
^^^^ Ummm yeah, ok. If the sights crap out on me then i will just replace them. As for the "Economist" point of view, that may be good for you, as for myself, i've spent $300 on worse. So far, really liking the gun itself. Sights are quick to pick up. Good for me for the time being.
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Oh!
And exactly right. Nothing lasts forever. Works good for me right now too. If we were all budget minded we would all go out and buy Norinco .22lr pistols, go buy smart cars, never go to a clothing store other then Walmart, turn off our internet and play Scrabble to pass the time. Boring!!!!
 
This is a great looking gun. I'm an M&P fan and this seems like a badass version of a proven gun. I'm assuming other than the trigger job and Viking sights the internals are phosphated a la the Sig 220 Combat Green. Is there a mag disconnect on this beauty?

Congrats on yer new piece!

Great... just what I need... another gun drool over, lust after, and eventually buy even though I can't afford it.
myeh... I guess it could be worse!
 
DARKSTANG said:
Oh!
And exactly right. Nothing lasts forever. Works good for me right now too. If we were all budget minded we would all go out and buy Norinco .22lr pistols, go buy smart cars, never go to a clothing store other then Walmart, turn off our internet and play Scrabble to pass the time. Boring!!!!
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HAH!!! That is classic, and right on the money!! Sometimes ya just gotta live life.

The other thing is, the VTAC is not my first handgun, but is quickly becoming one of my favs....
 
R700 said:
VTAC sights have been known to lose the fibre optic tube in the front sights.Not to rain on your parade but it looks nice but other than the the sights, it is just an m&p 9 with a paint job. Save your 300 bucks and buy the m&p 9 range kit that comes with 3 mags, blade tech holster and ear plugs for 1/3 less of what you would pay for this. I was going to go the same route but the range kit is a better buy. I am not speaking from experience but the sights have an opening in them for the fibre optics rod...this spooks me out. It looks nice but the $300 difference over a regular m&p is a bit steep. That extra 300 bucks could go to 1000 rds of 9mm.Nothing some krylon paint couldn't do. Still a nice whip though.I knew of a person who also had the cz shadow and same thing with the front sight.Watch this series of vids. If your a holster draw kinda a person i can see these sights losing the rod. Side note..Sig p226 contrast sights are the best in the business... in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI0IniFh2Ro
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If you don't like them, don't buy one.

No one cares what you (or anyone else for that matter) would rather spend your cash on. Seriously.


Nice gun Mr. Seriously wish VTAC would release one in .45
 
Also, keepin mind that in the US there is only $200 difference in price (and that's at full pop MSRP) - The "regular" M&Ps list at $569 and the VTACs list at $779. So really, that's less than the price of the sights alone, which sell for $240 per set from Viking Tactics.

And really, even with the skewed Canadian pricing, $300 is not bad for a durable PVD coated slide, FDE frame and an installed set of US$240 sights.
 
As far as front sight itself shifting off I would assume this means they're simply not putting enough loctite etc on surface of slide and sight?

I'll be dripping in some red or green loctite day one based on hearing this.

In regards to the light pipe itself, possible to wick in some medium ca to retain its position?

Please report with what S&W is saying is their permanent fix for this as it seems to be common and would be nice to know what they will do for the owners out there, thx.
 
If you wish to contact S&W for their permanent fix, by all means have at it. I will call on monday and see what they will do for warranty. But as the sight is already reglued and red loctited mounted, i highly doubt they will be inclined to do anything.

But maybe, you never know, they might be helpful. After my last experience with warranty with Kimber in Canada, i am pretty soured on warranty period.
 
Well, have been in contact with VTAC, they arranged a return ticket for Trijicon for me to ship the front sight or slide back. They also mentioned that Mr. Lamb is talking to Trijicon about an engineering fix to the sight.

Great service.

BTW, i did not contact S&W i chose to deal with the company that put their name to the sight.
 
Dude, my second guessing is constant, but I've been running the M&P for a long time and it's a great platform. Hopefully GP Tactical gets the VTAC soon.

Glad to hear VTAC is going to stand behind their product. When you're a shooter putting up high round counts, the last thing you want is a pistol with a known issue.

Great video BTW.
 
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