Good luck with that, unless you are a US Citizen with a second residence stateside; because since I see that you're in Alberta... You won't be able to lawfully posess a Sig 556 rifle. Prohibited class, deemed to be a variant of a named prohib (Sig 550)
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Good luck with that, unless you are a US Citizen with a second residence stateside; because since I see that you're in Alberta... You won't be able to lawfully posess a Sig 556 rifle. Prohibited class, deemed to be a variant of a named prohib (Sig 550)
Just to recap for those of us lost in the flow... 556 is a prohib, 553 isn't? if so how much for a (complete)553 and how does it compare(whats different really) to the pe90 that we can have now? I'm looking to delve into a san type rifle but I think I'm off on some info... also:
What about parts availability?
Who has them?
Are there parts kits?
Whats the life expectancy of one of these(both pe 90 and 553)? round wise...
Id much rather have ar type mags simply because here they are abundant(if this was Switzerland I'd probably not ever dream of ar mags)
I did see the thread in the black and green rifle section, but search doesn't help and maybe some others here are looking for this sort of info
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Not quite, on the swiss arms rifles as well as the 55x rifles, the upper receiver is the registered firearm, not the lower. So, you can bring in the 553 lowers as it would be the 553 upper that is the prohibited part.
If thats what you are referring to.
so a 553 swiss upper is a prohib? ok so lets get this straight, to order a complete firearm they would put a pe90(our version) on a 553 lower and call it a pe90?
here's the other question in my mind, from what i have been reading all 55x style firearms have interchangeable bolts and carriers aside from the 552(smaller from what i understand) and that goes for the sig models in the states...
Therefore can I get myself a 551a1 bolt group from the states at half the price of a swiss made and use it for everyday plinking/range use?
anyways why is the upper the gun part? the lower is different(can't accept select fire parts) on these and the uppers the same aren't they? or am i wrong on the compatibility of parts between these firearms...
I know I'm splitting hairs here but since we're being all technical and stuff, the PE90 is ALSO a 550 variant - it's the Swiss semi-auto variant of the 550. The rifles we get here are not available anywhere else in the world, they are essentially the pre-550 rifle prototype that the Swiss Army found to be too expensive, so they simplified it and made it cheaper to produce and it became the 550. Substituting 550 parts into a SwissArms rifle of the type we get here in Canada is essentially putting a lesser designed part into your rifle.
totally understand about the lesser parts argument, but a bolt head and lug costs as much as 4 full bcgs for an ar15, then add even more for the carrier i'd rather have something cheap to torture and save the good stuff... so if it's possible that is what i will do, now to get the 553 lower...
Indeed they are prohibited here...but I'm moving soon!
Sorry, the Sig550 in Swiss Service is the STG-90 (Assault Rifle 90), the civillian version is the PE-90 (Personal or Civillian Rifle 90) - same gun, in Switzerland the joy is button normally rather temporarily removed, to allow for reconversion if necessary - easily spotted by the metal 'flag' cover on the receiver. Current factory semi auto guns are also PE90, but they are semi-auto 550's. What we get in Canada is NOT a 550, or any subsequent version. That's where the 540 comes in, our guns are closer (but not identical to) the 540 - they are not sold anywhere else in the world, the PE 90 is. Kind of explains the price tag, huh?
It's funny how they (Swiss Arms & Sig Sauer) use the same PE prefix in the serial numbers for the PE-90, SIG Sport 550 and the different "Canadian only" rifles...
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Any chance on being able to order one of these? I called in and inquired a few times and I keep leaving my information with Stefan. What is the turn around time?
Both lowers $$$ can vary with your choice of stock and if you put the DDLES stock adapter on your SAN lower.
Roughly:
NEA Lower - $500
SAN LPK - $500-600 (Unless you swap your own)
Labour - ?$ (Unless you do it your self)
Buffer Tube - $20-30
Stock - $40 - $200+
So your looking at about a difference of $600-700 roughly assuming you don't swap your own SAN LPK into the NEA Lower. This does not include shipping, HST, duties ,ect. Plus the cost of the actual stock which can range from a standard $40 to a $200 Troy/Magpul, ect.
Besides cost, your going to have to wait (I'm guessing about a year if not more) a while to get the SAN Lower, while the NEA is available to get now.
TSE_Justin
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He's waiting to hear back on availability from Swiss Arms.
angryeyebrows
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I'm just trying to imagine a place where I can place an order for one of these lowers and get it in a reasonable time frame.
This is what was posted on the 10th of Jan 2012:
When I phoned in, credit card in hand ready to order, I was told by Stephan there was no availability and I could be waiting up to a YEAR!
WTF mate?! What's the story?
