Swiss Arms 553-US Lower
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Any word on what an upper will cost? Certainly the upper would cost more than the lower and now we would be WAY over the price of a new complete rifle. Why so much?
Also, any possibility of the lower with no stock?
Also, any possibility of the lower with no stock?
TSE_Justin
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That is the complete US lower version? Sorry I'm not sure what you're asking for.
angryeyebrows; The standard SAN lower complete is approximately $1300+GST, but this is stamped vs. the billet 553-US lower. Volume of production also dictates their pricing... they mentioned they require an approximate 2 month lead time to do runs of lowers...
I have been eyeing a swiss for a while. the nea lower didn't appeal to me as much due to it requiring a different stock. if you can put the new lower on a nonrestricted upper fo 4kish i would buy one for sure. (otherwise I can't see putting 2 k on top of a 3k(used) gun).
thanks luke
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Still $600 dollars more per unit it pretty crazy. Who are they even marketing these for? I can't imagine the LE department that would choose a $4000+ dollar Sig over a $1500 G36.
So what is the complete gun gonna cost? I assume all the uppers are very close to the same price.
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You're right, it's gonna cost more than that
Although if there is a market for the HK mr 223's (they start at about 4k's)--albeit a small one, they'll be a market for these too I suppose.
I'd still seriously look at it provided I can sell/trade something off towards it.
TSE_Justin
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I would imagine Europe, as Sig USA has their Sig556.
Yes, the quoted price is the complete ready to go lower.
Their uppers are in the $2000-$3000 range depending on features/bbls/etc.
We're exploring other routes with the lower, including possibly the stripped lower to save people $800 odd on the trigger pack and folding stock.
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2k for a new lower is bloody ridiculous. I quite like the SAN rifle and have had the opportunity to shoot them enough to say I would like to own one. But frankly for $2000 you can get a fantastic AR, or a couple more bucks gets me a XCR or SL8 as pointed out. Not to mention the tricked out M305 or even original Springfield.
I don't see the quality or the complexity there that would justify such a price. Feel free to tell me that I don't have to buy one if I don't want to, but I would like to. But someone somewhere is gouging the sh*t out of this thing, and if it isn't SAN or TSE then they need to find new subs.
$1200 maybe 1400 tops and that is what most people would say.
I don't see the quality or the complexity there that would justify such a price. Feel free to tell me that I don't have to buy one if I don't want to, but I would like to. But someone somewhere is gouging the sh*t out of this thing, and if it isn't SAN or TSE then they need to find new subs.
$1200 maybe 1400 tops and that is what most people would say.
tse If you could prove or at least feel out interest in a complete rifle (non restricted would be most popular i think) what would the minimum #'s be to get san interested in a small run? 100? 200? 1000? I would gladly pay a premium on a new rifle that comes with the new lower say 3500(normal) - 800 to a 1000 for factory lower + 1200 for new style lower would be 3700-3900.
is that completely out of line? 3500+- for a rifle and 1200 for the lower (stripped as previousily mentioned) is still pushing 5 and leaves me with a lower that i don't need or want, I suppose you could sell it but a few dozen guys all doing the same thing would hurt the price I would think.
if I am out to lunch don't hold back, I have been waiting for just such a beast and was considering contacting nea to make just such a thing. then I saw the new lower in sans catalouge and found this thread, it looks like the cats ass but at much above high 3's I wouldn't justify it. maybe thats just me though.
is that completely out of line? 3500+- for a rifle and 1200 for the lower (stripped as previousily mentioned) is still pushing 5 and leaves me with a lower that i don't need or want, I suppose you could sell it but a few dozen guys all doing the same thing would hurt the price I would think.
if I am out to lunch don't hold back, I have been waiting for just such a beast and was considering contacting nea to make just such a thing. then I saw the new lower in sans catalouge and found this thread, it looks like the cats ass but at much above high 3's I wouldn't justify it. maybe thats just me though.
I was not accusing you of raising prices or gouging.
You guys are doing a lot of work with the swiss stuff. I would pay 15-20% more for these guns (especially the sapr 7.62 if it pans out)
from what I understand this lower comes in two forms 553 complete price unknown(to me)and the new lower by itself price 2k as mentioned.
I understand you are looking at a stripped lower. I was wondering if you said to san I want "x" amount of 551's(or pe90 if thats the wrong number) set up with the new lower from factory would the price still be the price of a new rifle plus 2k for the lower or the price of a new rifle plus say a premium(less then the 1200 for a stripped lower or ovbiousilly there is no point). I find the complete rifle ready to rock with the new lower more attractive then ending up with a factory stripped lower sitting in my garage. Maybe san could care less about some guy from canada and the options that you listed are all we are gonna get, I am cool with that I was just asking.
I was not accusing you of gouging. I was asking if it was within your power to ask san to put the lower on a batch of complete rifles(non restricted) from the word go. maybe that would result in a cheaper overall price maybe not. maybe you have gone over all these scenarios already, maybe not. I am just asking. I am assuming you guys have some relationship with san as you mention kinda putting them onto this idea via nea's lower.
cheers keep up the good work
You guys are doing a lot of work with the swiss stuff. I would pay 15-20% more for these guns (especially the sapr 7.62 if it pans out)
from what I understand this lower comes in two forms 553 complete price unknown(to me)and the new lower by itself price 2k as mentioned.
I understand you are looking at a stripped lower. I was wondering if you said to san I want "x" amount of 551's(or pe90 if thats the wrong number) set up with the new lower from factory would the price still be the price of a new rifle plus 2k for the lower or the price of a new rifle plus say a premium(less then the 1200 for a stripped lower or ovbiousilly there is no point). I find the complete rifle ready to rock with the new lower more attractive then ending up with a factory stripped lower sitting in my garage. Maybe san could care less about some guy from canada and the options that you listed are all we are gonna get, I am cool with that I was just asking.
I was not accusing you of gouging. I was asking if it was within your power to ask san to put the lower on a batch of complete rifles(non restricted) from the word go. maybe that would result in a cheaper overall price maybe not. maybe you have gone over all these scenarios already, maybe not. I am just asking. I am assuming you guys have some relationship with san as you mention kinda putting them onto this idea via nea's lower.
cheers keep up the good work
