Maverick.flhx
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Interesting to see if/when they will be on the Canadian market..... I like the statement of 4x4 magazines..... i.e. legal in Canada (for now)
16 round Shotgun SRM 1216
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Wildbore
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- Nipigon, Ontario
Is it just me, or does this ruling make no sense?
It's like saying if you glued 2 Lar-15 magazines together, it becomes one magazine and the total capacity now exceeds the 10 round limit for handgun magazines.
It isn't appealable, but the CFC's opinion isn't legally binding. If someone was caught with one in Canada, it would be up to the court to decide whether this is truely a prohibited device.
It's like saying if you glued 2 Lar-15 magazines together, it becomes one magazine and the total capacity now exceeds the 10 round limit for handgun magazines.
It isn't appealable, but the CFC's opinion isn't legally binding. If someone was caught with one in Canada, it would be up to the court to decide whether this is truely a prohibited device.
- Location
- Sudbury ontario
Isn't there no limitation for rounds in tubular mags? Unless your hunting?
If it's a semi-auto shotgun it's limited to 5 rounds. If it's manually operated (pump, lever) there's no limit.
fenceline
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4 tubes making up one magazine. It is one piece. If it were four magazine tubes held together buy a bracket that was part of the gun, it would be good. But wold defeat the purpose of the design.
fenceline
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- East of Home, West of the Rest
You are talking about attaching two mags together vs building one large unified piece. Apples to oranges.
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- Sudbury ontario
Yeah that's what I ment sorry lol
Mr Wolverine
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- Manitoba. Canada
My apologies for posting on another dealers forum but as they are not selling these guns I don' think I am treading on anyone's toes.
We imported two of these shotguns a few years ago and presented an argument to the RCMP SFSS as to why the magazine should be legal. I was congratulated on making a good effort with my arguments, but told no, the 12/16 mag was prohibited. The fact that SRM advertised their shotgun as having a 16 rd mag did not help. I designed a 16 rd mag for this shotgun with 4 separate 4 rd tubes but SRM were not interested in the development of a new mag for our market (Canada) and this would also highlight mag couplers. I chose not to pursue it as it would bring into question "mag couplers" an area that quote "had not been legislated". Sometimes it is better to let sleeping dogs lie.
For what it is worth I like the shotgun, I have two here, NIB each with a spare mag (Pinned to 5rds) please e-mail Wolverine if interested, I am selling at my cost as this is another R&D effort for a project that never flew!
We imported two of these shotguns a few years ago and presented an argument to the RCMP SFSS as to why the magazine should be legal. I was congratulated on making a good effort with my arguments, but told no, the 12/16 mag was prohibited. The fact that SRM advertised their shotgun as having a 16 rd mag did not help. I designed a 16 rd mag for this shotgun with 4 separate 4 rd tubes but SRM were not interested in the development of a new mag for our market (Canada) and this would also highlight mag couplers. I chose not to pursue it as it would bring into question "mag couplers" an area that quote "had not been legislated". Sometimes it is better to let sleeping dogs lie.
For what it is worth I like the shotgun, I have two here, NIB each with a spare mag (Pinned to 5rds) please e-mail Wolverine if interested, I am selling at my cost as this is another R&D effort for a project that never flew!
2ndShotCanada
CGN Regular
Email sent. I want both if I can afford them.
Suther
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- Fraser Valley
Bummer. Too expensive for me anyways, but it would be nice to see ways around the silly mag capacity laws we have... Can we ask for a pistol version for 10rd mags!? Lol
windage
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I know this has been discussed before but I just find this to be ridiculous and have to vent anyways.
The RCMP ruling on this doesn't make any sense. Once 4 shots are done then you have to MANUALLY rotate to the next mag(tube) of 4 rounds. To me that is a mag limit restricted to 4 rounds. How is that any different then inserting a new 4 round mag hanging off of a stock mounted mag pouch on a standard mag fed semi auto shotgun? It is still a manual operation regardless of how you look at it.
The RCMP ruling on this doesn't make any sense. Once 4 shots are done then you have to MANUALLY rotate to the next mag(tube) of 4 rounds. To me that is a mag limit restricted to 4 rounds. How is that any different then inserting a new 4 round mag hanging off of a stock mounted mag pouch on a standard mag fed semi auto shotgun? It is still a manual operation regardless of how you look at it.
VancouverS4
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- Maple Ridge, BC
I watched the hickok45 video and thought wow a cool non-res shotgun that can hold 16 rounds because only 4 are available without manually operating the firearm.... Then I thought this would be a great concept for a rifle that operates under similar principles. Now that this thread is revived I realize it's a victim of our no-sense firearms laws.
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