Calgary Shooting Centre BROKEN INTO !!! Oct10/11 - 2012

[CrazyHands13]

Jordans is blanket over all cases.

Good guys. Bad guys. Everyone is innocent until the court says otherwise.

Everyone is "not guilty" until the court says otherwise, not innocent

[fenceline]

Everyone is "not guilty" until the court says otherwise, not innocent

"Presumed innocent until proven guilty" is the phrase. You can't be proven innocent by the courts, they can only find you guilty or not guilty, bit you are always "innocent until proven guilty".

[Franco Magnifico]

In this country if you are charged with any crime you are guilty until proven innocent.

[woofer2609]

delete

[Thunderhog]

We need to learn from the bad guys!!!
Legal gun owners need to learn and use the precedent set in 2016 R v Jordan to their advantage when facing frivolous gun storage or similar charges. If it works for the bad guys it should also work for the good guys.

Good luck with that!... The dirty and corrupt Government usually side with real criminals, not law abiding gun owners that make mistakes. The new Liberal bag-lickers currently in power, will make a precedent out of you!!

[Critchie]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore....

[Granddad]

So, if I understand this correctly, the police did their part by investigating, then arresting the "alleged" perpetrators and bringing charges. (I understand that everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but there must have been sufficient evidence for the police to have even brought charges in the first place, right?) Then these "alleged" perpetrators either walk free, or receive drastically reduced sentences for, what? A failure on the part of the court system to execute justice in a timely and effective manner? Seems to me that the court system itself should be on trial for a crime here. They too walk free on this.

[nick237]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore....

X2 there is no place for people with honour

[cp220]

R vs Jordans. Can be googled. Essentially says the crown has a specific period of time to bring the matter to trial. When a charge is laid a stop watch starts. Delays are on the crown unless the delay can be shown to be tied to the accused or his counsel.

The Supreme Court set a specific limit. I believe it is 18 months but can't recall specifically. Defence adjournments don't count toward this time limit.

I think it was 18 months at Provincial court, or 30 months in superior courts. There was also a mention of the Crown being able to provide info on "exceptional circumstances" to justify the delay like what happened recently in the Lukas Strasser-Hird trial.

Basically loads of people are going to get freebies. Yay Canada!

[flying_scotsman]

I'd bet The Rebel Media and Vice News would pick up the story.