CZ 858 and tabbed bolt

[dagtaph]

I checked this rifle in my local store and to my surprise the bolt was not tabbed.
was the gremlin fixed in some other way? Is gremlin still a problem in those rifles? Thanks.

[berger]

No telling when that rifle was produced...and I am not 100% certain the 858s were fixes.

[haha49]

They basicly take a bunch of old rifles strip them down for parts and make good newish rifles. It's like a referbused item were it was used then recondition to like new

[dagtaph]

The one i checked in the store was the Canadian model, so it had to be assembled recently albeit possibly from surplus parts.

[GQBalla]

my cz 858 i just goot from canadaammo wasnt tabbed either

[Rick911]

my cz 858 i just goot from canadaammo wasnt tabbed either

Same and mine has gremlin.

[nmason194]

Im wondering if the gremlin doesnt have something to do with the use of corrosive ammo and not cleaning the trigger group out completely on a regular basis. Maybe the corrosion exploits a weakness in the design? It didnt show up in my rifle for about 3 years, around the 1500 round mark (with surplus corrosive) Anyways i tabbed my bolt and not one problem since. I did it myself with a MIG welder... Didnt turn out to pretty, but with some dremmeling it looks ok and works perfect. If you take a picture of a tabbed bolt to any good gunsmith they should be able to do it for you, for reasonably cheap too.

If im not mistaken only some of the VZ58's come tabbed, and none of the CZ858's do. But i could be wrong on that

[dagtaph]

Im wondering if the gremlin doesnt have something to do with the use of corrosive ammo and not cleaning the trigger group out completely on a regular basis. Maybe the corrosion exploits a weakness in the design? It didnt show up in my rifle for about 3 years, around the 1500 round mark (with surplus corrosive) Anyways i tabbed my bolt and not one problem since. I did it myself with a MIG welder... Didnt turn out to pretty, but with some dremmeling it looks ok and works perfect. If you take a picture of a tabbed bolt to any good gunsmith they should be able to do it for you, for reasonably cheap too.

If im not mistaken only some of the VZ58's come tabbed, and none of the CZ858's do. But i could be wrong on that

That seems to be the pattern, the gremlin usually shows up after a 1500 rounds mark. It has to do with dynamics of the moving parts. When the parts get worn in and cycling smooths out, the gremlin pops up.

So i guess it is still there, i just thought maybe they somehow fixed it without adding a tab.

[Rick911]

Im wondering if the gremlin doesnt have something to do with the use of corrosive ammo and not cleaning the trigger group out completely on a regular basis. Maybe the corrosion exploits a weakness in the design? It didnt show up in my rifle for about 3 years, around the 1500 round mark (with surplus corrosive) Anyways i tabbed my bolt and not one problem since. I did it myself with a MIG welder... Didnt turn out to pretty, but with some dremmeling it looks ok and works perfect. If you take a picture of a tabbed bolt to any good gunsmith they should be able to do it for you, for reasonably cheap too.

If im not mistaken only some of the VZ58's come tabbed, and none of the CZ858's do. But i could be wrong on that

Only fired non corrosive. Gremlin appeared after many rounds nothing close to 1500.

[Gunusr]

Gremlin showed up afer a few dozen rounds for me, I took it back to the store for warranty work and the gunsmith heated and bent the sear to fix it.