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I rest my case. Thanks boys......and incidentally.....yes we plan on engraving our ice arms logo on it for one reason....and the only reason that you boys have inadvertently pointed out............marketing. Its all about marketing.Originally Posted by jhamu
Has anyone confused you guys with the American ICE? http://www.ice.gov/best/
Anyhow, good for you guys. I'll be keeping an idea on your site.
Death comes by subtle means; the satisfaction of routine.
Lifetime member of CSSA and NFA.
Just a suggestion, I'd like to see just the carrier with the gas key installed and staked even if it were a few $ more. If it were NiB that is even better.
One is mine.
+1, I was looking at that one stripped carrier on your site thinking I wish it had a gas key.
Not sure a lot of average customers have a staking tool. On the other hand, some may purchase fancy bolts and want a nice Canadian carrier to mate with it.
On the other hand . . . the stripped carrier is great for those who like to tinker with the piston conversion kits and don't want to rape the gas key off an otherwise perfectly good carrier.
Is it really too much to ask before spending hard earned cash? I don't want to side track this too much, but I don't see what the big deal is asking about gas key staking. If you have any studies or experiments resulting in statistically relevant data showing that the staking is not required, please send the info my way (not anecdotal evidence please).
There are reliability issues that can arise from a loose gas key. Even if the worst thing that will happen is a ruined range day why chance it? I prefer to take all reasonable steps to ensure a quality, reliable firearm. Especially ones as easy as solid gas key staking. I'd rather be shooting than troubleshooting a problem.
I am truly excited that there is now a Canadian producer of BCG's. My dealings with dlask have been excellent, and the communication top notch.
I do have to wonder at the response of a couple people to the question about more information on a part that varies significantly from manufacturer to manufacturer.
I could care less what logo is on it, so long as it is built to specification and quality controlled (and even better, made in Canada).
Ben
Do you have any? How is a carrier staked effect reliabilty? I would like to see data on that.
I'm not going to derail this much further. I will state right now that I have no study either way, which is why asked such that those more knowledgeable on the subject would share any info they had.
I will say this however - with the amount of heat cycling a bolt sees, having physical interference (staking) would help keep the screws in place. As such, I will stake any BCG I use.
Its all about clamping force. The key is bolted to the carrier with a specific torque to achieve that force, and as a result, creates a seal. Over time with temperature cycling those screws may back off, lowering that clamping force to such a level that an effective seal no longer exists. This can lead to problems with the rifle, as the gas energy is no longer all contributing to cycling the bolt (short stroking etc).
If you choose other methods of maintaining screw torque its all good. To each his own. Main thing is to keep them torqued up.
Again, sorry for the sidetrack dlask. Can't wait for my bcg's to arrive. We should take any further conversation on this topic to a new thread.
Ben
I will give you my business as I have in the past. Never fails to amuse me some of the bozo's on here. I could never work in retail!!!
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