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    At the end of the day Harper is a politician and he wants to get re elected. He will do whatever is necessary to survive the next election.

    Keep in mind as far as Harper is concerned we are nothing more than a tool to continue in government. We need to make sure that getting our support is not free of charge. The PCs of Harper must put out if they expect us to continue supporting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wolverine View Post
    I am still working through access to information but it is extremely frustrating, to say the least. Remember that CZ now have all the guns back in their possession including the three sample guns that the RCMP examined, I have the serial numbers of these three guns, just waiting for photos showing how some one? butchered them internally in an attempt to make them "rock and role".
    Those sneaky f**ks, blocking importation is an effective and much cheaper way to ban the guns.
    Now they can wait to isolate the registered ones first at anytime they choose, and go after the Non Restricted ones after the Conservatives loose the next round.
    Watch out everyone, the worst is yet to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwillmoore View Post
    At the end of the day Harper is a politician and he wants to get re elected. He will do whatever is necessary to survive the next election.

    Keep in mind as far as Harper is concerned we are nothing more than a tool to continue in government. We need to make sure that getting our support is not free of charge. The PCs of Harper must put out if they expect us to continue supporting them.
    If we're talking about doing everything that is necessary to survive the next election, strategically for the Conservatives it likely won't require appeasing us gun owners. We have no other choice that stands a reasonable chance at forming government. The Liberals, and NDP would be a giant leap in the wrong direction. If we all decided to vote Chuck Norris or Morris the Cat as someone suggested, that takes votes away from the best (only?) choice we have.

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    This should be considered the line in the sand for all Canadian gun owners. The dialogue here shouldn't be what gun they're going to ban next... it should be, "what can and should be done"? This is a big deal, and should not be tolerated by any of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbomb View Post
    This should be considered the line in the sand for all Canadian gun owners. The dialogue here shouldn't be what gun they're going to ban next... it should be, "what can and should be done"? This is a big deal, and should not be tolerated by any of us.
    It is a big deal, it always is a big deal when guns are confiscated. The difference this time is that it affects more gun owners than have been affected in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Williams View Post
    It is a big deal, it always is a big deal when guns are confiscated. The difference this time is that it affects more gun owners than have been affected in the past.
    Nothing's "confiscated" yet. But still.. just the fact that this involves one of the most popular rifles here in Canada. It's a bad omen. The only real solution is to repeal or rewrite bill c-68. It's kind of a long shot, but I think we really should come up with a way to do that before the next election. If a Liberal party gets in with that bill still intact... all this is done. lol.

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    Gotta bombard the CPC.... Their convention is upcoming, and reclassification of firearms is already on the agenda. Send a letter (not email) and a 68 cent cheque!!!

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    The RCMP can only declare something prohibited if...
    A) It is full auto or easily made FA
    B) It is a converted auto
    C) It is a variant of a named prohib

    C is out as they have already declared, in writing and with the FRT that the vz58 and variants are NOT variants of a named prohib.

    So either A or B was determined during examination. The shipment was either full auto, or converted autos.

    Given the results of the last two imports, I don't blame Wolverine for not risking another shipment. Too much out of their control at too much cost for the risk.

    The classification of the vz58s in general has not changed. The import of two batches was blocked.

    As has been suggested, no need to dig up the garden as it sits right now... Yet.
    Last edited by fenceline; 09-05-2013 at 03:55 AM.

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    Lots of cowards dumping their guns on others it seems...for no reason.
    Never argue with an idiot!!! --- Do not ASSume!!! --- “Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors.” – Ernest Hemingway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Williams View Post
    It looks like the game is over now. No importer in their right mind would attempt fresh imports of CZ 858 or CSA type rifles at this stage. This is only the beginning.
    Exactly! This is nothing…
    Going to get a lot worse

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