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    SA VZ.58/CZ.858 Drum Mag

    On your website the SA VZ.58/CZ.858 Drum Mag has the following listed in its description:

    "This Mag will not fit CSA/Czech-point rifles (Sporter Model)"

    I have a CSA VZ.58 Sporter and was unaware that there was a difference in mags.

    Could somebody fill me in as to why this drum will not work in my rifle? or are the CSA/Czech-Point rifles/magwell different than the Canadian ones.
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    Umm...They do fit. I haven't fired it, as they are a PITA to load, for 5 rounds, but they fit fine. I have a 18.5" cz-858, 7.5" csa vz58, and 11.8" csa vz58. All good.
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    The CSA "Sporter" model is chambered in 5.56/.223. The CSA "Carbine" model is chambered in 7.62x39. Which one do you have?
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    I have a new production run CSA VZ.58 Sporter 19" barrel, 7.62x39

    I've just been told by a friend via text that the new CSA's have more material in the magwell area and they will not fit. The older CSA's don't have any issue.
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    Actually gentlemen, that disclaimer is specifically for US shooters buying the "California legal" Czech sporters.

    Here's a great example of one from the very talented Caleb Giddings at Gun Nuts.net



    The problem with sharing office space with a gun shop is that sometimes you do silly things. GunUp Gun Sales has had these VZ-58 Sporters in stock since the panic, and because it’s a 10-round gun with a thumbhole stock, haven’t been able to move them. So, I took one off their hands (there are still two left, btw) and now I have a VZ-58 Sporter. Obviously, the big difference between this and a “regular” VZ-58 is that this gun has only a 10 round magazine and cannot accept a 30 round mag without milling the receiver.

    So perhaps I’ve been watching too much Strike Back (where they use SBR VZ-58s), but I think this rifle is cool as hell. It’s not perfect, and I need to figure out what to do with it. Quick list of features that I like and don’t like to help establish a plan. First, I don’t really care that it only takes 10 round magazines, at least for now. I can get the 10 rounders cheap, and I’m not going to be operating in any operations with this rifle, so milling the receiver is probably a last priority. The iron sights don’t actually suck too badly, with a fairly wide rear notch. Plus, mounting optics on AKs and VZ-58s suck. Now, the one thing I do loathe is the thumbhole stock. It’s just bad. But it does have a sling swivel attachment right in the place where I’d want to put a sling. But it really is awful, so that’s going to go. I can’t decide if I’m going to replace it with a wood stock or an M4 style stock, that will be tbd.

    There are really two directions I could go with this build – go with putting it back in the wood, or move it forward and use modern components. As I’ve been writing this post, the beginnings of a plan have formed in my mind, because in its current configuration this rifle weighs 7.4 pounds fully loaded. That’s about a pound and a half more than a fully loaded M1 Carbine. See where I’m going with this? The atrocious thumbhole stock is heavy, so if I could get rid of that and replace it with something lighter, I could get the total weight under 7 pounds. If it’s under 7 points, suddenly I have a lightweight, iron sighted rifle capable of engaging targets out to 100 meters chambered in .30 caliber. That’s actually pretty appealing, and even though it gives up 5 rounds to an M1 Carbine, 10 rounds of 7.6239 is certainly nothing to sneeze at in a truck gun.

    So, the next installment of the VZ-58 Sporter build will have me ditching the godawful thumbhole stock, and adding something new and interesting!

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    Some US models were made for single stack magazines. Drum mag will fit all 7.62x39 VZ 58 and CZ 858 rifles imported to Canada

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