I understand that grains does not refer to actual grains of powder, but what I don't get is how a 44 mag. Lever action cartridge can have 300 grains, while the much larger 300 win mag can have 180 grains. Can someone educate me?
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I understand that grains does not refer to actual grains of powder, but what I don't get is how a 44 mag. Lever action cartridge can have 300 grains, while the much larger 300 win mag can have 180 grains. Can someone educate me?
Grains are a antiquated measurement of weight. There are 7000gr/lb. Not really sure who's measurement it was, but drams a ottoman scale weighs powder charges in shotgun shells.
Seems your referring to grain weight of projectile in the two calibers. Both very standard for each respectively. Usually 44mag will be a short, fat, round or flat nose....bore .429. Whereas the 300mag bullet will usually be a long sleek copper jacketed Spitzer, with either a exposed soft point or plastic tip...bore .308
Powder charge for 44 magwould be in the range of 25-30 gr, depending on powder. The 300win is pushed by about 75-80 gr powder. Each very different burn rates. Use pistol powder in rifle cartridges, much too fast, probably resulting in blowing up the gun.
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I think what you are looking at are bullet weights, not case capacity in grains.
The 44 shoots a heavy bullet at a lower velocity.(around 1000fps)
Around 20 grains of pistol powder would be used in the 44. with a 300gr bullet
About 70 grains of rifle powder would be used to send a 180gr bullet down range out of the 300 win mag. ( 2900+ fps)
Hope this helps.
As mentioned above, the 300gr in a 44mag and 180gr in a 300win mag is bullet weight. Generally speaking larger bore diameters use heavier bullets, hence the 44mag with its bigger bore diameter uses a heavier bullet than the 30cal 300win mag.
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The calibre of a cartridge refers to bullet diameter. In that context, .30" is not larger than .44", it is considerably smaller.Originally Posted by bearslayer56
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_(unit) it's part of the avoirdupois system of measurement, other posters have covered the mixup pretty well.
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And to make things more confusing 44 mag isn't even .44" lol
Although by larger I assume he means the size of the cartridge case not the bore diameter.
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In addition to what others have said 300WM is a bottleneck cartridge and 44MAG is a straight walled cartridge
Grains are a measurement used in weighing bullets and powder.
There are 7000 grains to one pound...
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