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Thread: U.n. Firearms marking regulations

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    Im gonna make a cynical guess, that this postponement has nothing to do with civilian firearms, and everything to do with military firearms/weapons (i.e. LAVIII to Saudi Arabia) that are being exported for sale. The manufactures are either not set-up, or not able to, or for political reasons, don't want to, adhere with sections of the act, prior to completing deals that are in progress. I have no facts to back up this assertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Proenneke View Post
    Im gonna make a cynical guess, that this postponement has nothing to do with civilian firearms, and everything to do with military firearms/weapons (i.e. LAVIII to Saudi Arabia) that are being exported for sale. The manufactures are either not set-up, or not able to, or for political reasons, don't want to, adhere with sections of the act, prior to completing deals that are in progress. I have no facts to back up this assertion.
    well how bout that... a theory that isn't stupid.

    Now for my my addition: The military industrial complex wont have their business interfered with. They create problems by selling arms to governments in conflict regions then sell us solutions buy supplying our armed forces. The UN isn't going to stop that age old business strategy. The UN hasn't been able to stop Africans and Arabs from killing each other by the millions for the decades they have been around because the UN is a declawed and neutered house cat trying to govern a den of pissed off lions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Proenneke View Post
    Im gonna make a cynical guess, that this postponement has nothing to do with civilian firearms, and everything to do with military firearms/weapons (i.e. LAVIII to Saudi Arabia) that are being exported for sale.
    So we're delaying marking our imports because of... our exports?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_B View Post
    So we're delaying marking our imports because of... our exports?

    yes... it would have to be marked at the country it enters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parts View Post
    yes... it would have to be marked at the country it enters.
    Well they'd have to be marked at time of manufacture but I don't think that's a serious impediment for guys routinely engraving Canadian Forces.

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    It's delayed because nobody has any idea how to actually enfore that clusterf*ck of a regulation. The CBSA can't because of the 60 days delay, the RCMP doesn't want to because imports are regulated by CBSA and the serial number is good enough for them, and that import marking is totally useless unless the firearm is exported anyway in a 3rd world country anyway.

    Nobody should be surprised when an ill-tought, unenforceable and useless regulation isn't applied.

    Make this an export marking and then it might actually come to life. At that point though nobody here would care the slightest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Proenneke View Post
    Im gonna make a cynical guess, that this postponement has nothing to do with civilian firearms, and everything to do with military firearms/weapons (i.e. LAVIII to Saudi Arabia) that are being exported for sale. The manufactures are either not set-up, or not able to, or for political reasons, don't want to, adhere with sections of the act, prior to completing deals that are in progress. I have no facts to back up this assertion.
    how would manufacturers not be able to mark them? they already are marking each and every weapon they make, what are four more digits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parts View Post
    yes... it would have to be marked at the country it enters.
    it does not say anywhere it has to be done in any country, just that it must be done AT LEAST 60 after entry. when the gun is actually made and stamped at the factory is way before this set point, so the factory adding four digits on the receiver is not really a difficult thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainamazing View Post
    well how bout that... a theory that isn't stupid.

    Now for my my addition: The military industrial complex wont have their business interfered with. They create problems by selling arms to governments in conflict regions then sell us solutions buy supplying our armed forces. The UN isn't going to stop that age old business strategy. The UN hasn't been able to stop Africans and Arabs from killing each other by the millions for the decades they have been around because the UN is a declawed and neutered house cat trying to govern a den of pissed off lions.
    Hahhhhahahhahahahah!!! I'm dying!!! So true/funny

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    Sounds like you want these markings... and no it's not just as simple as adding four digits at a factory... doing that breaks the chain of production which requires more work..

    Quote Originally Posted by P0WERWAGON View Post
    how would manufacturers not be able to mark them? they already are marking each and every weapon they make, what are four more digits?



    it does not say anywhere it has to be done in any country, just that it must be done AT LEAST 60 after entry. when the gun is actually made and stamped at the factory is way before this set point, so the factory adding four digits on the receiver is not really a difficult thing to do.
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    Damn! Misses & I ought six (unmarked) guns in the last two months for nothing.

    The unfairness of it all ;-)
    Let's follow the USA example: https://project2025.afsp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Toolkit_Safe_Firearm_Storage_CLEARED_508_2-24-20.pdf

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