'08 Sask Archery Swamp Donkey!

storminathome said:
Congrats on the bull and thanks for the story and the info on which broadhead you used. Tracking an archery shot moose this time of year can be extremely hard. The search for a broadhead for moose that Im happy with still continues. From my personal experience with moose and elk (shot by myself, brothers and friends) there seems to be a big difference in penetration depending on whether a rib is centered on entry or not. Im starting to lean toward a total second archery setup for moose (as opposed to deer, 3D etc), heavier arrows, big peep sight, large bright sight pins, cut to tip broadheads and as much draw weight as I can comfortably handle. I am currently shooting razorcaps and was hoping to try out a steelforce phathead this year but didnt get a chance. We had several bulls calling but none came within range. Thanks again for the story and the info!
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Do you hunt around Meadow Lake?

I hunted in Meadow Lake Prov. Park around 6 years ago for my first archery season...had 1 call back but never seen ANY Bulls. Had a chance at a cow but couldn't get a shot.

I going to pick up an APA bow next year or maybe at Christmas gift.:wave:

APA has some of the highest KE of any bows on the market. Best of all he is located in Biggar, Sask made product.

I am also going back to feathers(for Moose), and I am going to go back to 3-blade broadhead such as Wasp Boss or Rocky Turbo.

The advantages of Feathers far out weigh the disadvantages.

Feathers don't deflect as much as vanes when contact with rest or twigs/branchs, they also lay flat when arrow passes through making for less resistance.

The only disadvantage to feathers is you need to water-proof them and they are noisier than vanes when in flight.
 
350 Mag said:
APA has some of the highest KE of any bows on the market. Best of all he is located in Biggar, Sask made product.

I am also going back to feathers(for Moose), and I am going to go back to 3-blade broadhead such as Wasp Boss or Rocky Turbo.
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You note K/E, but what about momentum? Lots of the traditional archers are going really heavy, and are getting excellent penetration. Mind you your trajectory is obviously affected, but it's something that practice can overcome.

One good example is the GrizzlyStik. I'm talking about arrow weights in the +650gr range. They are also designed for extreme forward of centre weight, which supposedly increases penetration by up to 50%. An arrow like that with a good 2 blade would do very well indeed.

ETA - They have awesome broadheads too. The only downside is that their stuff is expensive. But the best usually is.
 
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1899 said:
You note K/E, but what about momentum? Lots of the traditional archers are going really heavy, and are getting excellent penetration. Mind you your trajectory is obviously affected, but it's something that practice can overcome.

One good example is the GrizzlyStik. I'm talking about arrow weights in the +650gr range. They are also designed for extreme forward of centre weight, which supposedly increases penetration by up to 50%. An arrow like that with a good 2 blade would do very well indeed.

ETA - They have awesome broadheads too. The only downside is that their stuff is expensive. But the best usually is.
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I definitely agree with heavier will penetrate better.

It definitely makes a difference in how the broadhead enters...if your lucky enough to go in between the ribs the arrow will usually zip right on through. In my case I hit rib dead center and broadhead did not deflect or roll off the rib it punched right through.

The last one I shot I got a pass-through with same bow and arrow weight the only thing that was different was I shot 3 blades instead of 4 and I was using feathers. Feathers help because they lay flat when they meet resistance(like the hide), vanes will cause a little friction as they are pulled into the hide.


I shot heavy arrows the first season I think they are Terminator Hunters with 145gr broadheads.(I think my total weight was around 500gr) I never got anything that year but I did sail an arrow overtop of a nice 4x4 buck.(mis-judged the range)

With heavier arrows I would definitely have to start using a range finder all the time.

I have passed up a few 40-50 yard quartering away shots on Bulls before just because I wasn't confident enough to make that shot at unknown range.

I will probably change arrows if I goto a higher KE set-up. The arrows will probably be a little heavier.


I like how the SlickTrick performed and would use it on Deer but I think I will go back to a 3-blade design for Moose.(or maybe even a 2-blade C.O.C).

Also I might even goto a 70-80lb draw. I am still fairly young and 72 pounds doesn't bother me and I can draw fairly easy without making unneccessary movements.
 
I will probably change arrows if I goto a higher KE set-up. The arrows will probably be a little heavier.
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My limited experience says that to increase K/E the velocity is much more important because velocity is squared when calculating K/E. That generally means lighter arrows.

Do a search for Grizzlystik - I think they are made by Alaska Bowhunting. They are used on Cape Buffalo and other really tough game. If nothing else you will find some good stories!
 
1899 said:
My limited experience says that to increase K/E the velocity is much more important because velocity is squared when calculating K/E. That generally means lighter arrows.

Do a search for Grizzlystik - I think they are made by Alaska Bowhunting. They are used on Cape Buffalo and other really tough game. If nothing else you will find some good stories!
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Yes, but IF I increase my draw weight I will probably have to go to a stiffer spine which usually means heavier arrows.

Probably 2 grains per inch.

One can also purchase weight tubes for arrows to increase weight.

You might find this forum interesting..

He tests broadheads and scores them.

Uses real Deer scapulas and everything.

http://btreviews.proboards57.com/index.cgi?board=fixed&action=display&thread=3240
 
Why not? said:
Congratulations on getting a nice bull, and staying with the follow up!

Ted
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Thanx,

I forgot to mention one not so fun part of the story..

As you can see by the pictures it wasn't very pleasant day.

I think it hit 20 degs(yep...and it was ....OCT 1st:eek:)...anyways that wasn't the worst part.

Sand Flies were unbelievable. You can actually see them in the Ranger/Moose picture.

I had head net on, and bug spray but I still got bit about 75 times in the small of my back, on my arms or any other place they could crawl in and feed....was truly a horrible experience dealing with those flies.
 
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