10/22 detachable magazine in a bolt gun...

Kevin M.

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My buddy and I were out at the range the other day plinking away with our .22's, mine a 10/22 and his a savage bolt action, and we got to wondering...

Why have no bolt action firearms ever been designed or modified to fit a Ruger 10/22 magazine?

I like bolt action .22's, and I love my 10/22, but the one thing I hate about every single bolt action .22 on the market is the magazine design. They are expensive to get extras, usually stubby and sharp, and have a simple but in my opinion, poorly designed magazine release. (Bent flap of metal that stabs the joy out of your life.)


Wouldn't it be cool if you had a bolt action repeater that took 10/22 magazines?


You could have 10 round mags that fit flush, or if you are just messing around, then you could toss in a 25 rounder for fun.

Just pondering, a fun idea if nothing else.

Maybe a Norinco backpacker would be a good gun to cannibalize for this... ;)
 
Awesome. Learn something new every day.

I guess Ruger would have been the place to check first. :HR::p

Must read more on it.

Need to know if it takes standard 10/22 barrels, or could be made to. Need... Short... Barrel... Non-restricted... 22lr... bolt gun...
 
Kevin M. said:
Awesome. Learn something new every day.

I guess Ruger would have been the place to check first. :HR::p

Must read more on it.

Need to know if it takes standard 10/22 barrels, or could be made to. Need... Short... Barrel... Non-restricted... 22lr... bolt gun...
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FYI, the Ruger 77/22 takes a slightly different magazine than the 10/22. The 10/22 takes PN BX-1, the 77/22 takes the JX-1 (in .22LR). The only real difference is that the JX-1 is flat bottomed, whereas the BX-1 is curve bottomed. Some people say they will jam up if interchanged, however I have not had this issue in my 96/22 (which is also supposed to use the JX-1).

Seems to me that the 77/22 takes a different barrel, the tenon is longer for the 77 barrel, but is otherwise similar.

Also beware, I think the newest 77s have gone to a threaded setup.
 
So I read on about the 77/22.

What a colossal screw up that rifle was.

It could have been such a success if they did three things:

1) Allow it to take standard 10/22 magazines, as well as aftermarket magazines.

2) Use standard 10/22 barrels, so it could have the same modification abilities as the 10/22

3) Keep the price to a non-retarded price range for a .22 bolt action rimfire.



Could have been a far better and more successful design. Shame.
 
Well Kevin M maybe you should contact Ruger and tell them how to fix the Most successful firearm manufacture and builder since Mr. browning was a round. Lets see came on the seen late 50's early 60's has not been sold or gone bankrupt like every other manufacture ,does not get parts made in china,still has a big piece of the market.
 
Kevin M. said:
So I read on about the 77/22.

What a colossal screw up that rifle was.

It could have been such a success if they did three things:

1) Allow it to take standard 10/22 magazines, as well as aftermarket magazines.

2) Use standard 10/22 barrels, so it could have the same modification abilities as the 10/22

3) Keep the price to a non-retarded price range for a .22 bolt action rimfire.



Could have been a far better and more successful design. Shame.
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I wouldn't say that the 77/22 was a screw up but it certainly is not my choice of .22LR. The traditional Mauser action and general heft of the the gun certainly sets it head and shoulders above what Savage and Marlin offer. Personally I would hold the 77/22 even a notch above the CZ rimfires, and they are really nice guns.

That being said, I really like your idea of a bolt gun that can use 10/22 barrels and magazines
 
Kevin M. said:
So I read on about the 77/22.

What a colossal screw up that rifle was.

It could have been such a success if they did three things:

1) Allow it to take standard 10/22 magazines, as well as aftermarket magazines.

2) Use standard 10/22 barrels, so it could have the same modification abilities as the 10/22

3) Keep the price to a non-retarded price range for a .22 bolt action rimfire.



Could have been a far better and more successful design. Shame.
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I wouldn't call it a colossal screw up. It does have some things going for it

-Three position safety.

-Fullsize, centerfire-esque design.

-Built like a tank, like most Ruger products.

-Pretty darned nice looking (opinion).

I will agree to an extent with your three points that it could have been done differently.

I can't for the life of me figure out why they had to make a different magazine for it. :confused:

The barrel interchange would have been nice, but I would suspect there would have been a comprimise in the 77 action. Then again, maybe it wouldn't have been an issue.

The cost is the cost unfourtunately. Look at the 77, it can't be cheap to make. Ruger usually represents good value and good quality. I would probably own a 77 or two by now if the cost was lower (but I don't really care for bolt actions anyway!).
 
The magazine is more a matter of contour to match the bottom line of the stock. The 77/22 is slimmer than a 10/22.
Interchagable short barrels are a Cdn. thing. US law is unsympathetic to any rifle barrel less than 16" long.
 
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Kevin, have you owned or shot a 77/22 or are you just going on hearsay. Just because you read it on the internet, doesn't make it the gospel truth. The 77/22 has that rep because of just this. I have yet to see a 77 that didn't shoot well. The 77 can use any mag designed for the 77, 96 or 10/22. All the aftermarket 25-30-50 or more mags will work in the 77. Same issues apply, some mags may not work so well in your gun. BTW, the 10/22 can use the 77/22 barrel, it requires a spacer kit, but can be done. It is a more expensive gun, but don't judge it unless you have owned one. Can be customized too,
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