10/22 Target 20" Barrel OR 10/22 Tactical VLEH ???

[dasilnei]

Hey guys,

I'm stuck on which 10/22 to buy, the Target 20" Barrel OR 10/22 Tactical VLEH ???

Does anyone know if the 10/22 Tactical VLEH has the two-stage trigger like the 10/22 Target?

Also I heard the bull barrel doesn't work well with certain ammo, or is it just the 10/22 Target?

Thanks for all your help!!!!!

 

[wayupnorth]

i havnt heard of any ammo problems between the 2.
the only time you usually run into ammo problems when your talking bull barrels if when they are chambered for bentz rather than a sporter type chambering.
i dont think ruger offers a bentz chambering on any of its production guns.
i may be wrong but i have never head of it and from what i can see from their spec sheets they say nothing about it.

Dlask offered 2 bull barrels, or at least use too, he stopped offereing the bentz because too many people didnt or couldnt be bothered to know the difference and how you need to use them and complained.

as for the trigger, both list the exact same trigger off the ruger web site

Unique two-stage target trigger features a short "take-up" stage, followed by a crisp, light target pull with no creep or overtravel.

 

[dasilnei]

Shoot! I missed that!

So its between 20" stainless barrel or 16.12" alloy steel barrel.

What do you all think??

i havnt heard of any ammo problems between the 2.
the only time you usually run into ammo problems when your talking bull barrels if when they are chambered for bentz rather than a sporter type chambering.
i dont think ruger offers a bentz chambering on any of its production guns.
i may be wrong but i have never head of it and from what i can see from their spec sheets they say nothing about it.

Dlask offered 2 bull barrels, or at least use too, he stopped offereing the bentz because too many people didnt or couldnt be bothered to know the difference and how you need to use them and complained.

as for the trigger, both list the exact same trigger off the ruger web site

 

[p.Rundle]

I'd say stainless, but that's just me. Always liked the look of them, especially fluted

 

[dasilnei]

Does any one have any information as to the technical specifics if which is better? I always thought longer barrel means long distance and more accuracy, as well as stainless barrel equals more accuracy.

Can anyone confirm this? The price for both are about the same. The target 20" being $50 or so more expensive

 

[langbanger]

I prefer a 16" barrel length on 10/22's the 20" heavy barrel is very unbalanced feeling to me

 

[wayupnorth]

meh, ive got a 18.5" bull on my big build and its not bad.
i dont carry it in the fields and free hand shoot with it though.

thats what my 8.5" build is for

there is a web site accuracy by the inch or something like that, guys cut off a barrel every inch and tested velocity or a 22.
the difference was actually very surprising to me, there was really no marked difference, couple feet per second for every inch hacked off.

as to accuracy the 10" difference between my 8.5 and 18.5 is non existent out to 50/100m so id say the 2" difference between 18 and 20 would be nothing.

to me, personally, the VLEH has always been the tacticool gun and the target version the real deal, but really the only difference between them is 2" on the barrel and the stock, the VLEH being a $80 Hogue and the Target being a decent wood one.

the question really comes down to do you want a stainless gun on a wood stock or a black gun on a rubber stock?
if you want a nice looking gun, go target.
if you want a tactical looking gun then go VLEH.
either way they are both a definitely step up from the stock ruger.
hell, the shortage of VLEH guns a couple years ago is what sent me down the rabbit hole that is building 10/22's!

 

[dasilnei]

meh, ive got a 18.5" bull on my big build and its not bad.
i dont carry it in the fields and free hand shoot with it though.

thats what my 8.5" build is for

there is a web site accuracy by the inch or something like that, guys cut off a barrel every inch and tested velocity or a 22.
the difference was actually very surprising to me, there was really no marked difference, couple feet per second for every inch hacked off.

as to accuracy the 10" difference between my 8.5 and 18.5 is non existent out to 50/100m so id say the 2" difference between 18 and 20 would be nothing.

to me, personally, the VLEH has always been the tacticool gun and the target version the real deal, but really the only difference between them is 2" on the barrel and the stock, the VLEH being a $80 Hogue and the Target being a decent wood one.

the question really comes down to do you want a stainless gun on a wood stock or a black gun on a rubber stock?
if you want a nice looking gun, go target.
if you want a tactical looking gun then go VLEH.
either way they are both a definitely step up from the stock ruger.
hell, the shortage of VLEH guns a couple years ago is what sent me down the rabbit hole that is building 10/22's!

Very knowledgeable thanks for the info!

What about the differences between alloy steel and stainless steel. Would stainless be more accurate? What about weight wise, which is heavier?

 

[wayupnorth]

i have a aluminum TacSol and while its a feather light barrel it get scratched up and marred both on the barrel but also on the barrel face sooooooo easily its not even funny.
i was even sent a pic today via PM from another CGN with that exact problem as well, his firing pin was carving a rut in his barrel face due to the soft metals used.

so for me the gun was a fun build and super light but i wont be making or buying any more with the light soft metal barrels, i just dont think they will hold up and last.

sorry, i think i went off on a rant about the wrong barrel, haha, i think your asking the difference between the cold forged VLEH barrel vs the target stainless, no?

that answer i dont have, your gonna need a welder or someone who knows about metals to answer that for ya.
for a 22 heavy bull barrel i dont think its gonna make a difference, i dont think your gonna be shooting so much and so fast that your gonna need to worry about the metallurgy differences in the composition of the metals in relationship to the molecule expansions and blah blah blah this is starting to sound way too sciency.....

lets look at pretty pictures of guns i made instead!

tacsold aluminum barrel on a stock ruger with a Hogue stock

Dlask 8.5 with a comp on a Boyd sporting the highly (now) illegal and deady 110rd mag

my baby, lets not talk about her, just drink her in with your eyes.

a Dlask 8.5 and 10" side by side.

GM stainless on a stainless ruger sitting on a Boyd

its friday afternoon, im feeling silly!

 

[langbanger]

I have not had any issue with the barrel face on my tac sol barrels. And unless you use it for s club, the cosmetic dings are a non issue as well. Tac sol is still one of my favorite barrels, just had good luck with them I guess. As far as the op's question, stainless will hold up better against the elements. That's about the most difference me or 90% of people here can tell you.

 

[wayupnorth]

I have not had any issue with the barrel face on my tac sol barrels. And unless you use it for s club, the cosmetic dings are a non issue as well. Tac sol is still one of my favorite barrels, just had good luck with them I guess. As far as the op's question, stainless will hold up better against the elements. That's about the most difference me or 90% of people here can tell you.

i dont know brother, this pic that was sent to me is pretty obvious that the firing pin is creating a divot in the face of the barrel along with the extractor.
and this is a new gun from what i understand.
i know my TacSol barrel got a ding in it from a wooden dowel.
it just seems like the aluminum is almost too soft.
but they are nice and light, so its a pay off i guess, need the softer aluminum to achieve the lightness.

 

[johNTO]

The heavy bbl of the VLEH will make contact with the Hogue stock when rested on the bi-pod. It can get heavy if you plan on carrying it.
I find the TacSol 10/22 too light...

 

[KeltecFan]

OP, I have a VLEH but since it is my "first" 10/22 I can't really comment on it vs. any others. If you are in the lower mainland, you could try mine out. It is wearing a cheap scope right now but it still seems great to me.

 

[turbo_bird]

my baby, lets not talk about her, just drink her in with your eyes.

That is nice, what stock is it? To the OP, I haven't tried the VLEH, but I do have the 20" target model. The manual says not to use stingers in it because the chamber isn't long enough. I ended up trimming my barrel to 18.5" and I think I like it better that way. The 16" will be a bit lighter yet, but neither are light rifles. I'm not sure what you mean by a two stage trigger in the target model either, mine didn't seem much better than a run of the mill 10/22.
Kristian

 

[dasilnei]

That is nice, what stock is it? To the OP, I haven't tried the VLEH, but I do have the 20" target model. The manual says not to use stingers in it because the chamber isn't long enough. I ended up trimming my barrel to 18.5" and I think I like it better that way. The 16" will be a bit lighter yet, but neither are light rifles. I'm not sure what you mean by a two stage trigger in the target model either, mine didn't seem much better than a run of the mill 10/22.
Kristian

I'm starting to lean toward the TACTICAL VLEH its on sale at alflahertys for $620.00 CDN from $690.00

The 20" barrel target is on sale for 719.99 at cabelas for 799.99

The only difference is the barrel lengths and steel (stainless vs. Alloy)

 

[wayupnorth]

That is nice, what stock is it? To the OP, I haven't tried the VLEH, but I do have the 20" target model. The manual says not to use stingers in it because the chamber isn't long enough. I ended up trimming my barrel to 18.5" and I think I like it better that way. The 16" will be a bit lighter yet, but neither are light rifles. I'm not sure what you mean by a two stage trigger in the target model either, mine didn't seem much better than a run of the mill 10/22.
Kristian

the stock is a Boyd (old tacticool) Varmint in Blaze.

 

[dasilnei]

does anyone know if the make thread adapters for the non-threaded .920 diameter bull barrel?

I know they make it for the standard barrel.

 

[wayupnorth]

yes, but not sure if id trust it not to fly off or mess around with the bullet as it leaves the barrel
h ttps://www.tacticool22.com/product/920-bull-barrel-non-threaded-barrel-adapter-12-28-thread-black/

you can just take your barrel into a gunsmith or probably any metal shop and have them thread your barrel for you.

 

[dasilnei]

Ya that makes sense.

Vleh looking more appealing... on the laminate stock how would I mount a bi pod or other accessories?

 

[Brocolt]

why is this post still going???????????