10 ga

Brutus said:
So Cat, what is your non toxic blend for your fine vintage 10s while waterfowling??

Cheers.....
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I shoot either 7625 or 4756 when using smokeless, and either Nice Shot or Bismuth ( available from Bilozir.net).
When I shoot smokeless, I use plastic wads,and Federal or Remington hulls, but for the most part I use
Federal plastic hulls, 110 grains of FFG , and 1 1/4oz of either Bismuth or Nice Shot.
However, I have a tool and die friend who has set up reamers for making some brass cases and I will use these from now on because the black powder burns through the plastic hulls .
Cat
 
My only huntable 10 is presently at the gunsmith for a refinish. Guaranteed I'll be using it on the Alberta-Saskatchewan prairies for sharpies and pheasants for sure this fall season.

perhaps some varmints and a close range deer too up here in the boreal.......:)
 
Brutus said:
My only huntable 10 is presently at the gunsmith for a refinish. Guaranteed I'll be using it on the Alberta-Saskatchewan prairies for sharpies and pheasants for sure this fall season.

perhaps some varmints and a close range deer too up here in the boreal.......:)
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Okay, ENOUGH jibber-jabber!
Here's my best 10, whatcha got and do you need load data or do you have some already?:d

C
Cat
 


That's a really nice bird gun Cat! The fitted case is such a classy touch too.

I imported mine from Texas. Not shot yet, because I wanted to remove some dents first off. That's another reason that it's at the gunsmith.

The butt stock is definitely not original, but it's very well fitted.
 
farmboy108 said:
Yes it is and when you look in the loading manuals there are loads with bismuth shot that use different powders. So not only do you have a longer range shot charge you have a better chance of finding powder that you can load!
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Sorry, I misunderstood your post. I thought you were implying I was talking about steel shot.
I want to stick with aliant steel since I am just starting out. I figure it's best to stick with one solid recipe until I have my feet under myself and then I can start looking at different powders and recipes.
 
swinginberrys said:
Sorry, I misunderstood your post. I thought you were implying I was talking about steel shot.
I want to stick with aliant steel since I am just starting out. I figure it's best to stick with one solid recipe until I have my feet under myself and then I can start looking at different powders and recipes.
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You are wasting your money and time looking at any other powder than STEEL for reloading steel shot. Many here have been reloading steel since you could even get components to do so over 20 years ago and there is no other powder if you want good reloads and want to kill birds
Same as using the RSI high speed or duplex recipies the rest are a waste of time other than a couple in the
BP steel manual Yes wads can vary . Some like me like SAM1 and others like BP but not powder
On the solid recipe you have to reload at least 7 to 10 different ones from the RSI manual and pattern them with the gun and choke tubes you will be using that will tell you what works best and what you should be reloading
Years ago when I got the 1st RSI manual volume I started with 10 different recipies 7 shells of each and tryed them in my guns
It did not take many shots to see where I had to be and today use just three rsi recipies but keep trying anything new in the later versions
Have done 1000's in steel 10ga over the years and many 12ga 3" and 3 1/2". Nothing compares to STEEL powder PERIOD
Cheers

I'll ask again are you in mallorytown NS . Have a bud up there that reloads steel and may be able to help with powder not sure but it doesn't hurt to ask
On the bismuth I reloaded it 100% for waterfowl for 2-3 years way back when we just could not get the steel to kill. Yes it worked great but way too expensive and now I only use it in vintage guns since steel will kill fine with todays loads if you pattern your gun and can shoot. That being said I have not been able to buy any more since 2009 so treat it like gold on reloads today since it is very expensive especially reloading 10ga
Cheers
 
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swinginberrys said:
Mallorytown Ontario. I really appreciate all the information.
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Dam I should have known that since only some old farts still call a place in NS that which is not it's official name. Cannot get you some powder up there in Ont. Could of a few years ago when my brother lived there and worked for Dupont he would have had a stash but he went back to the US when that plant was bought out
Nice area hunted there with him a few times over the years. I will ask him if he had any buds up there that was also reloading steel . Worth a shot
take care
 
swinginberrys said:
Sorry, I misunderstood your post. I thought you were implying I was talking about steel shot.
I want to stick with aliant steel since I am just starting out. I figure it's best to stick with one solid recipe until I have my feet under myself and then I can start looking at different powders and recipes.
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No problem I have not seen any steel shot load listed for a ten that did not use steel powder. I do realize that bismuth costs lots but I just thought it was a way you could reload a few shells. You might want to try a few lead loads and just shoot your gun some. I just do not know how you are going to find steel powder. I loaded some lead for mine the other day and had some fun shooting pigeons with a cylinder choke and two ounces of number eight shot. I know that does not help for hunting loads but it will give you some time at the reloader. I am in the same spot looking for some steel powder as well.
 
swinginberrys said:
Is there other safe/reliable recipe's with different powders?
Thanks for any help
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The 10ga has huge potential when handloaded with modern steel shot components.
A good place to start is Ballistic Products and Precision Reloading.
They both make propriatary wads for loading steel shot and they have been in the business for a long time.
I use wads from both of these companies in different gauges, you will have to experiment and fine tune your loads for
optimum performance in your gun. A chronograph is also highly recommended. Try various choke restrictions, don't go too tight.
Make frequent visits to the range, measure speeds and pattern your gun.
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