10 Head of Big Game - 6.5 Grendel - 4 Seasons

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10 Head of Big Game - 6.5 Grendel – 4 Seasons

10 Big Game Animals taken over 4 seasons in Alberta with a 6.5 Grendel. Myself and my Kids. Before my two Boys were of legal Hunting age, I wanted a cartridge that would suit all our needs without any excess and settled on the 6.5 Grendel many years previous but had to wait for availability of factory rifles and ammo. The cartridge was released in 2004 so it took its sweet time becoming readily available up here in Canada.

I purchased the first 6.5 Grendel in late 2017 or early 2018 and had it ready to go for the 2018 season.

2018; The first animal taken, a young Bull Moose at 125 yards with a 15-yard recovery, later the same day a small 4-point Whitetail Buck at 125 yards also with a 15-yard recovery. Appears to be the first Moose ever taken with this cartridge (Nov 10, 2018). Boys weren’t old enough yet, so this season was just me filling the freezer and studying performance of the new cartridge.

2019; My oldest was now 12, passed his Hunters Education and had a Whitetail tag in his pocket. He took a nice little 4-point Whitetail Buck from a blind at 238 yards, DRT.

2020; I took a Non-Trophy Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep at 170 yards, DRT, my oldest took a large Mule Deer Buck at 192 yards, DRT, and then I took a nice 4-point Whitetail Buck at 198 yards, DRT. My youngest turned 12 just after the 2020 season so he got his Hunters Education over the Holiday Break and we made plans for Spring Bear to find his first.

2021; My youngest takes his first with a nice 5’ Black Bear at 10 yards, DRT. In the fall he took a nice 5x4 mature Whitetail Buck at 300 yards! 50-yard recovery. Then later in the season my oldest took a young Whitetail Doe at 355 yards with 40-yard recovery and I turned it into a double header with a mature Whitetail Doe at 420 yards, DRT.

We are 10 for 10 on Big Game now, at least 4 coyotes have also fallen to the Grendel as well. There’s only one miss on Big Game (a number of misses on coyotes), it was in 2021 on a rushed shot by my oldest in a blind with a Doe, she was in a hurry, and we couldn’t quite get moved and settled as she blew through on the wrong side of our blind at 120 yards and only stopped once briefly. The 300 yard plus shots were all laying prone across a valley, the 192-yard Mule Deer was prone, Sheep was prone, sitting height bipods used on a couple and shooting sticks, nothing freehand.

Since it’s a relatively newer cartridge for our part of the world I’ve been careful to detail the experiences to this point. Our average shot distance has been 213 yards and our average recovery distance has been 12 yards. 5 head of Big Game taken by Myself (experienced shooter), and 5 Head by two new shooters.

The ammo we have used throughout has been factory Hornady Black with the 123gr ELD-M bullets. The bullet combination of high sectional density, lighter construction (modern cup and core), and moderate velocity has been performing to expectation. We are getting deep penetration, great expansion and internal damage, and exits on almost all the class 2 size game(deer/sheep/bear), two larger deer had enough angle to keep the bullets in for some study and the best example to record was the 2020 Whitetail Buck at 198 yards steep quartering away. Impact velocity 2100 fps, entered through the second last rib and stopped after about 18” penetration in offsite meat front of brisket just under the hide, 99.8 grains recovered or 81%. The 420-yard mature Doe from this season was similar quartering away, 1800 fps impact, entrance was middle rib cage and it exited just inside offside front shoulder after 15” penetration with a 1.5” hole out the front end. Both those deer dropped on the spot with brilliant internal damage.

The game has been taken by 3 different rifles. The first 4 head of game (2018 & 2019) with a CZ 527 American (2 head with factory barrel about 23.5” and 2552 fps mv and 1 with 24” Proof Research carbon barrel at 2605 fps mv) then the 2019 deer taken with 20” Howa Mini Action with approx. 2500 fps mv. From 2020 onward and 6 head of the game has all been taken with Ruger American Ranch with 16.1” barrel and 2386 fps mv.

Trying out several rifles and platforms through these 4 seasons with traditional and chassis style stocks etc. we’ve migrated to the Ruger platform in MDT LSS-XL Gen2 AR chassis with Magpul furniture. The rifle has adjustable LOP to fit any size shooter and grow with them. The chassis adds weight but really ups the shoot-ability, soaks recoil, easy to watch everything in scope, and or, get back in scope etc. and the Kids are shooting it well as a result. Recoil energy calculates to approx. 6.5 ft/lbs. We’re about 8 ¼ lbs scoped without ammo. Our choice of accessories currently is Trijicon 3-9x40 Accupoint green dot duplex with Kenton Industries Speed Dial Turret (dials to 500 from 200 zero), removed factory picatinny rail in favor of Talley 1” Low Lightweight Rings, Strike Industries Buffer Tube, Magpul CTR Butt Stock, Magpul Moe-K Grip. Average 3-Shot group accuracy has been about ¾ moa all the way to 500 yards with that factory Hornady ammo and factory trigger setting at approx. 3 lbs.

I weighed this cartridge very heavily against the long-time champ of starter cartridges, the .243 win. The 6.5 Grendel may give up some point blank zero range, but we live in a day of rangefinders now so it’s a smaller advantage. The 123gr bullet of the 6.5 Grendel starts to walk away from the .243 after 300 yards in most factory ammo comparisons and it does it with a heavier better penetrating bullet as well. Less wind drift due to the high BC also. I’ve owned several .243’s and introduced new shooters with it previously. Now I will recommend the 6.5 Grendel, at minimum an equal to the .243 win. For reasons surrounding the bullet I think it’s actually better suited to Big Game than the .243. I would recommend the 6.5 Grendel not just as a starter cartridge but also as that cartridge a long-time shooter may migrate to after climbing the horsepower ladder and coming back down the other side.

I’m not a big Elk guy or traveller to hunt rare game in distant lands. We are primarily deer/sheep and other class 2 game, meat over trophy, the odd moose draw, lots of coyote/predator calling. We have found something that does what we ask with no fat and it’s working well.

A final observation we have noticed with this cartridge is the apparent lack of noise to the game, they didn't seem to explode out of the country at the shot as I've always been used with typical standard Big Game cartridges, including the .243 win although usually shot a .270 win or .270 wsm. We had game standing around, not going as far even hit fatally, and other game that was with animal we shot would stick around also. There was a lot that we were able to see in the scope after pulling the trigger on the first shot. This has become a common enough theme as the seasons have rolled on now that it's standing out as an unexpected benefit. We even had a coyote give my youngest a second shot from the blind after I lip squeaked it into 80 yards and he missed a head on shot but it didn't leave full scald like usual, a good lope and stopped again at 120 yards broadside and give another chance. That's quite unusual.

So that’s a wrap on our first 10 head of Big Game over 4 seasons. The 6.5 Grendel is the 21st Century Interpretation of what 30 grains of powder can do. We’ve heard plenty about two other 21st Century 6.5’s in the Creedmoor and PRC so maybe a little attention was due, especially since the Grendel was here first in 2004, the Creedmoor in 2008, and the PRC in 2020. All 3 amazingly efficient providing the most performance available for the powder burned. Hope you enjoyed the write up.
 
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Good hunting and great info! Thanks. I've been thinking of a Grendel for my girlfriend's first hunting rifle. Might build one on a Zastava mini mauser action.
 
Great write up, thanks for sharing all the info. I've been feeling the pull of lower horsepower rounds, experimenting with the 6.5 Creedmoor and .257 roberts. The 6.5 Gendel is now on my list!
 
Awesome write up.

Many people missed hunting last year and this year with their Modern Sporters chambered in 6.5 Grendel.
 
6.5 Grendel is a fantastic cartridge. It's a better beginners cartridge than the .243 which was often a new hunter choice. And it outclasses other cartridges in the intermediate class like .223 or 7.62x39. I just ordered my third 6.5 Grendel, a Ruger American. I don't really need it nor do I know what I am going to do with it yet but I'm sure I'll figure something out. :)

Thanks for the great write up!
 
I have been thinking of one for my 8month old daughter.

It seems like the perfect North American “intermediate” cartridge within reasonable ranges. It’s recoil or lack there of is just perfect for all beginners and purposeful practice for offhand shooting. I can’t wait to own one.
 
Great write up and Very Interesting that the 123 gr ELDM target bullet has worked out so Well for You ! I have a Howa Mini 1500 22 " Barrel that i am loading different bullets for it and just Playing with it ! I really like to shooting it . No Recoil is a Bonus ! I have NOT hunted with it yet BUT Plan on using it for Predator Hunting this Winter - I have mounted a Elite 4-12 DOA scope on it . RJ
 
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Thank you. There’s a fellow that did gel tests on YouTube of the eld-m and sst and the m went 1” further so it’s moot choosing between them imo. Some Guys on 6.5 Grendel Forum who've tried both SST (marketed as the hunting choice) and the ELD-M have found the SST a little too tough and have migrated to the eld-m for shorter recoveries and more exits as well, a discussion just started there around this in the hunting section. I'm not alone in finding the ELD-M (basically A-Max with different density tip) seems to be doing more once inside. There is magic when you match SD with construction and impact velocities for game intended, and the Grendel with Eld-M hits that blend. It has an unusually high reputation for drt’s and or very short recoveries (30 yards or less). The reason for that is all in the 123gr eld-m at these moderate velocities. It wasn’t actually the cartridge itself that drew me...it was always the bullet first, and that it launches from 30 grains of powder is ideal, well done to the designers of this cartridge and bullet imo. I always felt the 6mm bullets just not versatile enough on the hunting spectrum, just not quite enough diameter, weight, or SD. And the 140’s and up in 6.5 a little too much to work with 30 grains of powder, the 123 is the brilliance behind this thing imo. I see no need to reload, Hornady Black does it all. Plinking to Hunting. The game doesn't care how that bullet is marketed.
 
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Thanks for the excellent write up. Have 2 Grendels, Ruger and CZ-527. Use 123gr. bullets, SST and Lapua scenars. Only hunting is for wolves and coyotes. Thinking about purchasing another. Its an addictive round!
 
Chalk me up as another Grendel fan, although I haven't really done any hunting with it yet. It's likely what my son will use, a few more years to go for that. He is shooting a Howa in a MDT LSS too
 
Nice to see Grendel love is spreading!

Fantastic little cartridge that punches well above its weight thanks to 21st century design and understanding of in flight, and terminal, ballistics.

I've given it a pretty fair shake. I would still call it a 'niche' cartridge and label the Creedmoor the most efficient and versatile cartridge going. It's close though and for 90% of hunters would likely do the trick if called on. While the .243 was the 'niche' cartridge comparison of the 20th century I think the Grendel will end up owning that title by the time this century is over. I'll retire shooting it. It can do more than I'll generally ask of it.
 
A friend shot a deer this fall with his, using the Barnes 115gr Tac-Tx. Excellent performance, pass through on a broadside lung shot at 100 yards. That will be the bullet my son hunts with
 
A friend shot a deer this fall with his, using the Barnes 115gr Tac-Tx. Excellent performance, pass through on a broadside lung shot at 100 yards. That will be the bullet my son hunts with

I think it should be an excellent choice. That bullet supposed to open up well down to 1400 fps but haven't found any gel tests or recovered from game information online yet. It doesn't have as good a bc/sd but it is a mono for those that love mono's or have to use mono's so I imagine it will do just fine to 300 yards where most hunting happens anyway. I picked some up to check it out possibly one day and comparing it to the hornady it's shorter OAL and its crimped, plus it seems to be rated a little slower than the hornady would if given same weight bullet. If I get into reloading one day I would hope to seat it out like the hornady and get it moving a little quicker. Nice that there is a barnes factory load period so won't complain. The tac-tx bullets designed for the short barrel suppressed AR's so should be a great choice, it's the one that interests me more than any others outside my fav eld-m. If you get a recovery one day send me pics.
 
Somebody should show some details on the great barrel life of the 6.5 Grendel

Yeah I've seen some of that info around also, to lose sub MOA in a bolt action that say easily does 1/2 moa I've concluded may be limitless, like a .22 lr, guys running around with 8000 rounds saying still shooting like a hot dang (and that may have been from an AR not a bolt action!), you combine all the attributes of a 52,000 psi cartridge, 29 grains of powder, 6.5mm bore...what centerfire cartridge with modern performance can run with it in terms of barrel life? I'll never need to rebarrel a Grendel, even if I retired and shot all the time. Closest thing to .22 lr barrel life you'll get from a modern centerfire that can big game to 400-500 and steel all day at 700 plus too.
 
Yeah I've seen some of that info around also, to lose sub MOA in a bolt action that say easily does 1/2 moa I've concluded may be limitless, like a .22 lr, guys running around with 8000 rounds saying still shooting like a hot dang (and that may have been from an AR not a bolt action!), you combine all the attributes of a 52,000 psi cartridge, 29 grains of powder, 6.5mm bore...what centerfire cartridge with modern performance can run with it in terms of barrel life? I'll never need to rebarrel a Grendel, even if I retired and shot all the time. Closest thing to .22 lr barrel life you'll get from a modern centerfire that can big game to 400-500 and steel all day at 700 plus too.
It's not hard to find a high round count cartridge these days especially in a hunting rifle .
Rob Furlong's instructional 308 rifles went back to Cadex this year for refurbishing, with some having g a round count north of 9,000 rounds. They were still MOA at 1K.
One of my Palma match rifles has over 6,500 rounds through it andvit still shoots well on steel with the sling and irons out to 1K
My barrel burning 6.5 WSM had over 2,500 rounds through it and was still 1MOA at 500 meters when Mick McPhee cut 4" off it to find rifling when he rechambered it.
Cat
 
It's not hard to find a high round count cartridge these days especially in a hunting rifle .
Rob Furlong's instructional 308 rifles went back to Cadex this year for refurbishing, with some having g a round count north of 9,000 rounds. They were still MOA at 1K.
One of my Palma match rifles has over 6,500 rounds through it andvit still shoots well on steel with the sling and irons out to 1K
My barrel burning 6.5 WSM had over 2,500 rounds through it and was still 1MOA at 500 meters when Mick McPhee cut 4" off it to find rifling when he rechambered it.
Cat

Awesome info Cat, and from the horses mouth right there.:rockOn: The Grendel is like a 3/4 scale .308 running a little slower and less pressure so it should be a barrel life champ.
 
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