1100 not cycling

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So I have a Remington 1100 12g that is ticking me off .
I've swapped out barrels and furniture from the original trap barrel and wood to a 19" barrel (ported) and synthetic .
With the short barrel and synthetic fore end on it will not cycle light trap loads , it will cycle hunting loads but I want to make the lighter loads work .
The shorter barrel works great with the wood fore end with any load .
So I see some differences between the fore ends and I use some steel putty to try and copy the interior shape and exhaust port size and location but it still won't cycle .
Anyone else have problems like this ? what did you guy's do to fix it ? Is it like a semi pistol and is there a recoil spring to change ???
Thanks - Rick
 
The gas port in the barrel will need to be ever so slightly enlarged a bit at a time and test fired until your lighter loads cycle.
 
RUPZUK said:
Thanks Dennis .
Tonight it gets the drill , albeit a small one .
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RUPZUK guntech has the correct solution for getting 1100's to cycle. The only problem being if you open up the gas port too much, you may cause the action to be battered when using heavy field loads, and you could also spoil the barrel. That 19" barrel sounds like a dandy hunting barrel. If you did not want to alter the barrel there is an alternative that I used one time to make my 3" mag cycle trap loads before I got my 1100 trap gun. All you need do is to order a new action spring from Numrich, there only few bucks to buy and put it aside. Take your old action spring out and trim about a inch off of it. Put the spring back in the gun and try a couple of rounds. If she cycles your good to go, if not trim off a 1/2" at a time till she cycles. You must remember to install your new uncut action spring before you go hunting with heavy field loads! Then whenever you want to shoot trap or skeet just drop in the lighter action spring. The beauty about this mod is the fact that the barrel is unaltered, and if you trim the spring too much you're only out a 4 or 5 dollar spring;) It's a quick little cheat that was told to me by a gunsmith onetime and it works quite well.
 
As I understand it, the short barrel works with the wood fore end but when you put the synthetic one on it will not cycle properly? If this is the case, the answer is in the question; is the synthetic stock impeding the movement of the action bars or some other thing? I would look there first before drilling out any gas ports. AA
 
You got it right Arwen exept the interior dimentions of the synthetic fore end are larger than the wood so its not binding or touching but instead its allowing the gases to escape to easily .
Thanks for the spring idea Hi-Standard but this barrel is only for three guns , no hunting for this one - I have others for that if need be. Plus I already drilled it a small touch oversized before I read your post, tommorow will tell how it works .
 
the gas ports may have a hard crusty build up. a size 44 drill bit pushed thru may clean them out after soaking with solvent. you may also find your action spring tube in the stock, is rusted and got some crud and it may need to be cleaned. i put a ramline synthetic on a 1100 and the forend, unlike the wood original had no friction ring for the forend cap to tighten down onto. to get everything snug and in the proper place, i had to make 2 washers to go over the mag tube to tighten down the mag cap.
 
Tried it out at lunch (yah gotta love being 4 minutes from the range ) , worked great .
Small , barely oversized holes did the trick , didn't take much to make a big difference .
Thanks - Rick
 
On a similar note, I have an 1100 LT-20 Magnum I've been working on to get it to cycle target loads.

We drilled a second gas port and opened them up to a #49 drill size. I replaced the action bar sleeve with one from a regular LT-20.

It works reasonably well with Remington Gun Clubs, but not so well with the Winchester bulk packs from Wal-Mart, and not at all with Federal Top Guns.

I tried shortening the action spring, but the Remington loads come back too hard, and the others don't feed or chamber reliably.

The o-ring is new (less than a flat of ammo) and looks OK (it does seem sort of loose), but I've noticed fouling on the magazine tube FORWARD of the o-ring as well as on the underside of the barrel in the same area.

Should I try two o-rings? A thicker one with the same ID? One with a slightly smaller ID?
 
Wade Kirk said:
On a similar note, I have an 1100 LT-20 Magnum I've been working on to get it to cycle target loads.

We drilled a second gas port and opened them up to a #49 drill size. I replaced the action bar sleeve with one from a regular LT-20.

It works reasonably well with Remington Gun Clubs, but not so well with the Winchester bulk packs from Wal-Mart, and not at all with Federal Top Guns.

I tried shortening the action spring, but the Remington loads come back too hard, and the others don't feed or chamber reliably.

The o-ring is new (less than a flat of ammo) and looks OK (it does seem sort of loose), but I've noticed fouling on the magazine tube FORWARD of the o-ring as well as on the underside of the barrel in the same area.

Should I try two o-rings? A thicker one with the same ID? One with a slightly smaller ID?
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Your o-ring may be a little small causing a gas leak and preventing the action from cycling. I use cheap automotive o-rings, that are a bit loose on the mag tube but when inserted into the barrel lug, form a nice tight seal. My gun cycles perfectly. ;)
 
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For anyone looking for automotive o-rings, go to Princess Auto. They have a kit of assorted sized o-rings for less than $20 - the savings in frustration and gas by having many sizes available at home are worth it.
 
Someone suggested a thicker o-ring might hold the barrel slightly out of battery, so I bought a set of feeler gauges.

With the Remington o-ring in place the gap between the rear of the rib and the front of the receiver is 0.013.

With 2 Remington o-rings in place it measures 0.013.

With a thicker and slightly smaller ID o-ring in place (0.094 c/s compared to 0.060 for the Remington one) it measures 0.013.

So far so good. I'll try it out tomorrow.
 
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