12.5 inch barrel with pistol grip
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You may end up with a restricted firearm by puting on the pistol grip due to the overall lenght of the firearm.
Restricted firearms include:
-rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm;
Restricted firearms include:
-rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm;
That is an excellent description of Canadian firearms laws in a nutshell. So poorly conceived and written as to be one giant mess of contradicting rules and an entire spectrum of shades of grey.
Your quote is for a prohibited firearm, not a restricted.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm
Mark
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ok, sorry to
but to be sure...I can take my pump HP9 with a factory 14" barrel, remove the factory stock, install a pistol grip/folding stock combo, and as long as it is impossible to fire in a folded position, it would still be a non-restricted??
regardless of the OAL in the folded position, as long as it is over 26" when folded out and operational?
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ok, sorry to
I can take my pump HP9 with a factory 14" barrel, remove the factory stock, install a pistol grip/folding stock combo, and as long as it is impossible to fire in a folded position, it would still be a non-restricted??
regardless of the OAL in the folded position, as long as it is over 26" when folded out and operational?
How would it be impossible to fire in the folded position?
If it's under 26" OAL it's restricted.
See below:
According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:
a rifle or shotgun that can fire when its overall length is reduced by folding, telescoping or some other means to less than 660 mm (26 inches);
FYI:
This is the only way I've been able to configure a 14" shotgun using a factory Remington barrel and aftermarket parts to remain non-restricted.
OAL is 26.25"
If you add a single point sling plate between receiver and grip you gain another 1/8" to 3/16" in length.
Forend and grip are made by Speedfeed.
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- Montreal, Quebec
Actually, it would become "restricted".
Once you have installed the evil "pistol grip" you then have 30 DAYS to inform the CFO of this change to the firearm.
If within the 30 days, you remove the pistol grip and re-install the full length stock, then you can just forget about it and life should continue.
If once more the urge hits you to re-install the pistol grip, then you will once again have another 30 DAYS in which to inform the CFO of your relapse into temporary insanity.
These are the laws as they stand in Canada. Do not try to understand them as to do so could cause you to permanently damage some of your brain cells.
So, to remain UNRESTRICTED you must ensure that the shotgun NEVER has a pistol grip on it for more than 30 DAYS. After which time on the 31st day, you WILL become a criminal and are subject to becoming Bubba's girl in a federal pen.
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Actually, it would become "restricted".
Once you have installed the evil "pistol grip" you then have 30 DAYS to inform the CFO of this change to the firearm.
If within the 30 days, you remove the pistol grip and re-install the full length stock, then you can just forget about it and life should continue.
If once more the urge hits you to re-install the pistol grip, then you will once again have another 30 DAYS in which to inform the CFO of your relapse into temporary insanity.
These are the laws as they stand in Canada. Do not try to understand them as to do so could cause you to permanently damage some of your brain cells.
So, to remain UNRESTRICTED you must ensure that the shotgun NEVER has a pistol grip on it for more than 30 DAYS. After which time on the 31st day, you WILL become a criminal and are subject to becoming Bubba's girl in a federal pen.
I think and I may be wrong, once it becomes restricted it will always be restricted even if you replace the full length stock..
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- Montreal, Quebec
The trick here is to NOT let it become restricted by never going past the 30 day period.
The problem is, and I asked them about this. Just because you have 30 days to register it doesn't mean you can shoot it. If you take it to the range you are shooting an unregistered restricted firearm. Since it isn't registered it isn't covered by your Att. I asked this when I built my own AR 15 receiver. I wanted to know if the 30 day grace would allow me to take it to get anodised. I was told after I finished it to lock it in the safe, wait until the registration comes in and get an Att to get it anodised. If you do register your shotgun as restricted, that's it. It's restricted forever because it is classed as a pistol and while you can de prohib some pistols you can never de restrict one unless it is granted antique status.
