12-6 converted to restricted.

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Trying to determine the feasibility of converting get a few prohibs to restricted status. Can anyone recommend a gunsmith in southern ontario if possible, that can handle the work? Possible candidates include a 4 inch smith model 28, a PPK, and a luger.
Thanks in advance
Pete
 
mdl29 said:
The luger is a 9mm. I thought the PPK was a 380? The 28 I would love to make 4.2 inch. Not sure if it can be done or not.
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9mm Kurz AKA 380 ACP

Other names for .380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, 9×17mm and 9 mm Browning Court (which is the C.I.P. designation).

It is not to be confused with .38 ACP, 9mm Ultra, 9mm Makarov or 9mm Parabellum.

.380 ACP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.380_ACP

As for a PPK not being 380, a fellow range buddy has one in 380 ACP. Don't think they are that rare.
 
About 90% of the ppk's you find up here are 32's. The few .380's you find are expensive and snapped up instantly (despite what you hear there are still a lot of 12/6 holders out there who want one). There have been a number of people who have had 32's converted to .380's, and most haven't been too happy with the results. It seems to be a coin toss regarding reliability with them. You get the odd one that works good, but that doesn't seem to be the rule. (it isn't just re barreling that needs done, it needs extractor work too). The conversion to 30 reid seems to be the better way to go since it still uses the 32 cartridge necked down and just needs the barrel swap. But it is a reloading proposition only.
 
I bought a 1936 9mm Luger from Peter at lugercollector.com. It originally had the prohibited barrel, he refurbished it and put a restricted barrel on it, did a fantastic job IMHO. One of my favourite handguns to shoot. Am assuming he does re barreling as well as refurbishing.
 
dogzilla said:
About 90% of the ppk's you find up here are 32's. The few .380's you find are expensive and snapped up instantly (despite what you hear there are still a lot of 12/6 holders out there who want one).
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Thanks for the info DZ, didn't think it was quite so tilted towards the 380. The 25ACP ones I hear are as rare as hen's teeth.
 
I would think that he is thinking 22 lr, a very few early ones, as well as later one in 22 lr in the USA.
A PPK is made to be .32 , Just ask J. Bond
 
Might have mis-read the article, maybe they were talking about the PP vs. PPK Pistol.

It must be noted that most of PP and PPK pistols were made in 7,65mm (.32ACP) caliber, with 9mm Kurz (9x17, .380ACP) running distant second. The .22LR version was made in some numbers, and so far most rare is the 6,35mm / .25ACP version, with very few guns made early in production history of both pistols.

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/de/walther-pp-and-ppk-e.html

BTW, Love CGN because I'm always learning from the fine folks here :D
 
There were a very few .25 PPK pistols made. A few collectors on here would certainly trade you a restricted .22 AND a restricted .380 for an original .25 PPK.

The nicest PP or PPK pistol to shoot, in my humble opinion, is the .22, I love those. There have been actual scientific studies done to determine why the .380 PPK has more felt recoil than any other pistol in its size range. These efforts are documented on Waltherforums dot com.

I have written reams about the difficulties mere mortals encounter when converting .32 PP or PPK pistols to .380 ... It's touching to see that someone remembers. The only reliable way to do this conversion is to cut the groove in the frame that Walther used post-war in their pistols, and change out the mags. The original ejector can be ground down to work with the new style mags.

Pre-war and wartime PP and PPK pistols in .380 are almost all deadly accurate, and all have bottom mag releases. Walther believed that it was impossible to build a reliable .380 pistol with the side mag release, and with their original design, they were right. Cut a groove in the frame and eliminate the ejector / slide lock bump, and hey presto! Reliability.

I have a few restricted barrels for the .22 PP/PPK and need to install and test a couple. I'll report back here, with a few pictures.

If you're reloading anyway, the 32 to 22 conversion (bottle necked, .223) is supposed to be a great little cartridge, and should also require only a barrel change. It's on my very long to-do list, but nowhere near the top.

Epps has done some very nice .30 Reid conversions, and are reasonable in their price.

My 4 inch model 28 is the most accurate revolver I own. It out shoots the 6 inch and 8 inch guns, and I would be really unhappy if the barrel got swapped out and the accuracy fell off. Sorry, I wouldn't trust that little gem to anyone, there are sad stories about each gunsmith out there, and there is no way I'd chance it. There will be plenty of space in my coffin for the model 28, my model 13, and a few others. In a safe, of course.
 
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