12 gauge chokes for 00 buck shot?

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Hey all,
I've been hunting deer for a couple years with my Remington 12 gauge 870. I found that this year I had quite a spread on my shot, under 20 yards my spread was about 24 inches. I think the choke in the gun is an improved cylinder, but I haven't bought a wrench to check for certain.
I am wondering if anyone else hunts with 00buck and what chokes they use.
additional info: I cant use slugs cause I am under 400 yards in this spot. I use 3 1/2" Winchester and Remington rounds. None of my spots are over 60 yards to the tree line, my main one being 40 to the tree line.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
Robbie
 
As for your shotgun, if it is a threaded choke you can just use a quarter to unscrew the choke and it will say on the side. In addition to that if you look at the muzzle there will be notches on the screw in choke. I don't know off hand what the notch combination is but that is a simple google search. If it is a fixed choke should say on the barrel. If it is an ancient 870 will no markings then you need a wrench to find out. There is also a test with a dime but I don't know enough to explain it.


I don't hunt but I do sometimes screw around with 00 buck and if you have a full choke your patterns will suck more than a cylinder bore. In my opinion 60 yards is pushing it for 00 buck because it will spread quite a bit, I recommend a rifle for more than 40 yards. But I am not an expert
 
First step is to measure the choke restriction any way you can and if that is buying a wrench then so be it.
That would be the first step.
then again maybe you could tell us ''is this a new inbox 870 express''?
They only come with a single choke and it is usually a modified choke as mentioned on the box.
Otherwise go to my first point.
Rob
 
Tired the quarter thing, couldn't budge the choke once bit. actually took a chunk out of the quarter. The gun was bought new around 2009? It has 4 notches in the end of the choke. This choke hasn't been out ever, so I'm not even sure its one that can screw out.
 
Srobbie said:
Tired the quarter thing, couldn't budge the choke once bit. actually took a chunk out of the quarter. The gun was bought new around 2009? It has 4 notches in the end of the choke. This choke hasn't been out ever, so I'm not even sure its one that can screw out.
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well Srobbie, you need to soak that end of the gun in some solvent like G-96 or maybe some diesel oil and let it set for a bit apply some heat to the exterior of the tube with a heat gun or a hair dryer...so as to draw the solvents don towards the threaded end.
Then get that wrench or borrow one to help get this stuck tube out.
The four notches you speak of iirc are where the teeth of the tool line up and fit to grip said choke tube as remington labels them on the outside of stock factory choke tube.
I'll hazard a guess and suggest it is a modified tube and can be proven wrong wrong when this stubborn tube is removed.

Rob
 
From what I have read, the first screw in types of chokes were improved cylinder, and the ones right now are coming with modified.
I'm not sure, if I buy a full choke that it will take 00buck with out damaging it? seems like you'd be putting to big of an object through. the 3 1/2" Winchester loads have 18 pellets as well. (don't know if that makes a difference)
 
You will not hurt a full choke with lead buck shot. Years ago most guys only had one gun for everything. Shot lots of deer with a old 30 inch full choke gun with slugs and buckshot.
 
A dime is a good quick-and-dirty tool to measure choke in a 12 gauge. It won't pass through a full choke, it will just pass through a modified choke, and will pass freely through improved cylinder.

I use one of the speed wrenches with a crank on the end. This gives you more leverage, as well as being faster.

If you absolutely must use buckshot, the Federal Flitecontrol stuff is far better than anything else in my experience. It should be used with an open choke; no more than improved cylinder.
 
Flitecontrol or the Hornady Superfperformance stuff (uses the same wad) is said to be best shot through a more open choke.

I personally shot it out of a cylinder bore and always had good performance.

If you can't find that stuff, buy Winchester #1 buck. But the Flitecontrol is the way to go.
 
I've hunted deer with shotguns and buckshot for many years now; my vote would be to go with cylinder/improved cylinder and either federal's premium flitecontrol 9 pellet copper plated buckshot (best) or one of the hornady 00 with their versatite wad (a close second). My experience is that this style of wad with a cylinder choke will give you usable deer hunting buckshot patterns out to about 35-40 yards.

Previously I've enjoyed making some YouTube videos of my buckshot hunting experience and I'm excited to be working on another this season to compare the hunting performance characteristics of low recoil 00 buckshot vs standard velocity 00 buckshot through a short barrelled shotgun. This past weekend I was lucky enough to get the first of what I hope to be 4 deer for the project. I had one of his backstraps for dinner this evening, it was delicious!

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  • 1 cup soy sauce
  • 1 cup brown sugar
  • 1 venison backstrap
  • bacon

Mix soy sauce and brown sugar into a thick syrup. Use to marinate backstrap overnight. Preheaf oven to 350F, wrap marinated backstrap with bacon and secure with toothpicks. Bake for 35 minutes, then remove and put on BBQ to finish the bacon to your preferred level of charred goodness (about 10 minutes). Periodically drizzle remaining marinate over the backstrap while finishing it on the BBQ. I like my meat pretty rare, so if you are more a medium kinda person add time accordingly.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
Brobee said:
  • 1 cup soy sauce
  • 1 cup brown sugar
  • 1 venison backstrap
  • bacon

Mix soy sauce and brown sugar into a thick syrup. Use to marinate backstrap overnight. Preheaf oven to 350F, wrap marinated backstrap with bacon and secure with toothpicks. Bake for 35 minutes, then remove and put on BBQ to finish the bacon to your preferred level of charred goodness (about 10 minutes). Periodically drizzle remaining marinate over the backstrap while finishing it on the BBQ. I like my meat pretty rare, so if you are more a medium kinda person add time accordingly.

Cheers,

Brobee
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what did you warsh er down with Brobee?
Another success and a recipe to go along with it.
Thanks for sharing,
Rob
 
FLHTCUI said:
what did you warsh er down with Brobee?
Another success and a recipe to go along with it.
Thanks for sharing,
Rob
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Hi Rob,

I don't "drink", so my beverage of choice was as unexciting as a glass of carbonated water over ice. Works for me though!

Cheers,

Jason
 
great job brobee. i see you have proven that a pistol grip shotgun is a useful hunting gun . thanks for sharing and i am looking forward to your excellent videos of the hunt.
 
Brobee said:
I've hunted deer with shotguns and buckshot for many years now; my vote would be to go with cylinder/improved cylinder and either federal's premium flitecontrol 9 pellet copper plated buckshot (best) or one of the hornady 00 with their versatite wad (a close second). My experience is that this style of wad with a cylinder choke will give you usable deer hunting buckshot patterns out to about 35-40 yards.

Previously I've enjoyed making some YouTube videos of my buckshot hunting experience and I'm excited to be working on another this season to compare the hunting performance characteristics of low recoil 00 buckshot vs standard velocity 00 buckshot through a short barrelled shotgun. This past weekend I was lucky enough to get the first of what I hope to be 4 deer for the project. I had one of his backstraps for dinner this evening, it was delicious!

whitetail_shockwave_a_small.jpg


backstraps_small.jpg


  • 1 cup soy sauce
  • 1 cup brown sugar
  • 1 venison backstrap
  • bacon

Mix soy sauce and brown sugar into a thick syrup. Use to marinate backstrap overnight. Preheaf oven to 350F, wrap marinated backstrap with bacon and secure with toothpicks. Bake for 35 minutes, then remove and put on BBQ to finish the bacon to your preferred level of charred goodness (about 10 minutes). Periodically drizzle remaining marinate over the backstrap while finishing it on the BBQ. I like my meat pretty rare, so if you are more a medium kinda person add time accordingly.

Cheers,

Brobee
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Your whole post is pretty awesome, and that looks delicious....
 
Brobee said:
Hi Rob,

I don't "drink", so my beverage of choice was as unexciting as a glass of carbonated water over ice. Works for me though!

Cheers,

Jason
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Jason, I haven't had a lick of liquor since Dec.31 1991 at 00:00 hrs.
Doesn't mean we cant recommend a nice Warm Red wine to go along for the next guy and for us it does offer a challenge to warsh dinner down with something flavorful for ourselves.
Green Tea for me.
Thanks for sharing again.
Rob
 
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