12ga mini shell load data
- Thread starter glockrama
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I would start here ...
https:// www.ballisticproducts.com/Brochure-Loading-Shortened-Hulls/productinfo/00BSHORT/
https:// www.ballisticproducts.com/Brochure-Loading-Shortened-Hulls/productinfo/00BSHORT/
Thank you for responding
Have been reloading rifles for awhile,
Just looking into shotgun reloading
Seems tough to get the exact components.
Most stores don’t have at one or more of the components the recipe requires. Any thoughts or solutions, suggestions …
Have been reloading rifles for awhile,
Just looking into shotgun reloading
Seems tough to get the exact components.
Most stores don’t have at one or more of the components the recipe requires. Any thoughts or solutions, suggestions …
Yes, it is not easy to find all the components for a specific recipe .... many powders, wads or primers are not available right now.
All the books state that one should not substitute components.
However, many shotshell reloaders do substitute components on a regular basis.
The current situation of unavailability of components .... just makes it a necessity.
It takes a bit of knowledge and learning and to understand what substitutions are "safe" and which will get you into danger territory and with respect to pressures.
Here is an example ..... lets say a recipe calls for a Federal 209 primer .... but you are only able to get Cheddite 209s or Fiocchi 209s. Then generally you can use the Chedditeor or Fiocchi primers in that recipe, because pressures will be going down.
Cheddite and Fiocchi 209 primers are weaker than Federal 209A primers.
Here is a very good article on primer substitution:
http://www.armbrust.acf2.org/primersubs.htm
In short .... it takes a bit of learning and knowledge to safely make substitutions.
All the books state that one should not substitute components.
However, many shotshell reloaders do substitute components on a regular basis.
The current situation of unavailability of components .... just makes it a necessity.
It takes a bit of knowledge and learning and to understand what substitutions are "safe" and which will get you into danger territory and with respect to pressures.
Here is an example ..... lets say a recipe calls for a Federal 209 primer .... but you are only able to get Cheddite 209s or Fiocchi 209s. Then generally you can use the Chedditeor or Fiocchi primers in that recipe, because pressures will be going down.
Cheddite and Fiocchi 209 primers are weaker than Federal 209A primers.
Here is a very good article on primer substitution:
http://www.armbrust.acf2.org/primersubs.htm
In short .... it takes a bit of learning and knowledge to safely make substitutions.
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- Western Manitoba
Speaking from total experience of having loaded a grand total of 200 x 28 gauge loads ... Thousands and thousands of centre-fire rifle - is NOT the same at all - if you decide to substitute components, you are using your shotgun as the testing mechanism - what could go wrong? There is apparently NO home hand-loader way to assess the pressure of your creation - all you can say is whether or not your shotgun came apart. Velocity means about nothing when you switch and swap components - you can find pressure tested recipes where velocity goes "down", but pressure went "up", by substitution of a single component - hull, wad, shot weight, primer or powder type. Not sure that "not finding all components" is a very good reason to go ahead on your own and "invent" stuff, especially when it comes to loading for shot gun.
Well, I have developed tons of loads deviating from published recipes ......
Lately I am trying to load a 54cal round ball in a 12ga and shooting it through a 640 turkey choke. There is absolutely no load data available for this.
All my shotguns are still working fine ..... and I still have all my fingers ...
All I am saying is this ..... you need to know what you are doing .... and you need to know how a change/substitution will affect pressures.
Yes, don't just substitute components in a recipe without understanding what it will do to pressures.
And that understanding and knowledge takes a bit of learning ....
Lately I am trying to load a 54cal round ball in a 12ga and shooting it through a 640 turkey choke. There is absolutely no load data available for this.
All my shotguns are still working fine ..... and I still have all my fingers ...
All I am saying is this ..... you need to know what you are doing .... and you need to know how a change/substitution will affect pressures.
Yes, don't just substitute components in a recipe without understanding what it will do to pressures.
And that understanding and knowledge takes a bit of learning ....
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Brassman66
CGN frequent flyer
As you said, getting the exact components is tough, if not impossible especially in Canada.
So what is wrong using common sense and a bit of imagination.
First thing is matching the Hulls with the Wads. Using Wads is not absolutely necessary.
Cut a Hull apart so you can see which Wad seals well. Modify Pedals as needed.
Start with light Loads, do Pattern & penetration tests. Find out if 6 point, 8 point or Roll crimp work better for your particular Load.
Modern Shotgun Barrels can take quite a bit of Pressure. Reading up on on this subject including Tom Rooster the Shotgun Professor should give you some Guidance and confidence.
Cheers
