130 vs. 150 grain .270 win for whitetail

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I just picked up a .270 Win this weekend and was wondering what I should get for ammo. I will probably be buying only NON premium stuff from CTC.
I have no preference in winchester, federal or remington mfg. There is both 130 and 150 grain avail in all 3 mfg. in our limited selection at the local CTC. Will there be any benefit to either one, for mainly close to medium range shots on Whitetail. I just wanted to pick up a couple boxes for some praticing before this fall.

Thanks for the help JON
 
I have only used 130's (the 2 seasons I have had the gun) the 130 are the typical whitetail bullet and the 150's are typically for bigger, But I bet you get a split desicion on this.
 
Since you say close to medium shots, I say 150s. Since your using non-premium stuff, the lower velocity will give you a little less chance of a failure at close range shots if you hit a bone. Also a little less meat damage. But if you're recoil sensitive go with the 130s.
 
a j cave said:
150 for sure, 130's eats more meat then I do. my $.02
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They ruin alot of meat do they? How come they ruin more than the 150's?
Does anyone have a preference for the winchesters, remingtons or federals? They are all close in price I think they were: Win 19.99 Rem 20.99 and 16.99 for the federals.
 
Ruined meat = tissue damage. Faster bullets that fling bits of jacket and lead around at high speed destroy more tissue, and they also tend to kill critters faster.

You could also use a tougher 130-grain bullet (the TSX, for instance)...
 
Yea I suppose the 130's would be goin faster and be more likely to break up causing lots of damage. I knew that I just wasnt thinking :redface:

Today at work I had a guy knockin down the 270 quite a bit, saying that he had one years ago and he didnt like it because he found the bullets just zipped right through and he wound up doing alot of tracking.

Do you guys find this true aswell? and would the heavier bullets help to prevent this?
 
Possibly but only if the bullet was to tough where a whitetail did not give enough resistance to open the bullet. Think of it this way if a bullet needed to go slower so that it had time to expand in the animal I would be able to shoot through a moose with my 204 ruger. But we all know that the speed of the bullet combined with the fragile construction would actually result in more of a splat and not just zip through.

Think of it this way the 130 and 150 in 270 is alot like 150 and 180's in 30 cal (going by relative SD's) yes there are 180 grain heads that will work good for deer (giving good enough expansion on deer sized game) but most every 150 has been designed to do that job where most of the 180 have been balance to provide more penetration at the expense of expansion. The same idea goes for 130 and 150 in 270
 
Well I'd like to get enough expansion to anchor the deer without alot of tracking. But yet I also want minimal meat loss.
How bad do these 130's break up? Say if hitting the shoulder on a quartering shot.
 
I took a deer this year with a 130 gn Cor-lokt (it was a handload, but velocity would be pretty similar to factory. Fairly close (within 50 yrds) and the bullet went through ribs, spine and exited. Now, this was with a .270 WSM, so it was a little more speed than you'd be getting, but the bullet did hold together.

The meat damage was significant, but that was due as much to placement as the bullet.

Anyways, I wouldn't have a problem shooting the Remington factory stuff, or the Winchester power-points for that matter. They took a bunch of deer for me with a 30-06 and a .308 before I started handloading.

I mean, your needs are pretty basic: you just need a bullet for whitetails at reasonable range, and the normal bullets have been doing that for years. I'd buy a box of each kind in 150 grains and see what shoots best, then go with that.
 
The .270 only 'zips through' animals when you make a bad shot and don't hit the lungs, heart, or CNS. Buddy at work needs some practice, or needs to set up for a higher-percentage look at his targets.

Using well-constructed bullets, there's nothing in north america you can't kill quickly and humanely with the .270. If you're worried about a bullet coming apart on heavy bone, I'd recommend you try a 'bonded' bullet (one that has its core bonded to the jacket), a mechanically-improved bullet (like the partition or a-frame), or the triple shock. All will work just fine.

Edit to add: if you're only looking at whitetail, then yeah go with the core-lokt or hornady cup-and-core bullets--no sense splurging on the premium stuff.
 
Do you guys find this true aswell? and would the heavier bullets help to prevent this?
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Actually heavier bullets of the same construction will expand less,and therefore do less damage.Of course less damage usually results in the animal running farther after being shot.
 
BBB said:
I'd buy a box of each kind in 150 grains and see what shoots best, then go with that.
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You would get 150's for the 270 but used lighter bullets in the faster 270WSM? I'm not criticizing but just wondering why?
Also as aulrich stated in the 2nd post I guess we are getting a split on this one
 
gonecountry said:
You would get 150's for the 270 but used lighter bullets in the faster 270WSM? I'm not criticizing but just wondering why?
Also as aulrich stated in the 2nd post I guess we are getting a split on this one
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I've got pressure issues with my WSM. It hits peak pressures well before it should. As a result, I've been having trouble finding loads that work -- really, I've only got 2, the 130 grn cor lokt and the 130 Nosler Partition.

As to why I started with 130s and I'm recommending you use 150s -- I hunt sheep, wanted a round that was a little more flat-shooting with better reach. It's too much of a hassle to sight in for 130s in August for sheep, then resight in with 150s in october. Meat damage really isn't an issue when you're worried about sheep. That said, after I took a doe at 25 yards in October with a 130 grain partition I really wished I'd been shooting a 150.
 
BBB said:
Since you say close to medium shots, I say 150s. Since your using non-premium stuff, the lower velocity will give you a little less chance of a failure at close range shots if you hit a bone. Also a little less meat damage. But if you're recoil sensitive go with the 130s.
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What he said.




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I have shot many deer with the 130g winchester load, it is one of my favorites. It will kill them EVERY time. Don't let any one try to tell you that they won't work. It is all theroetical bullshiit.

From 1 yard to 400 that deer is dead. It is up to you to make the shot.
 
I have seen what the winchester 130gr Powerpoint loads due on a pair of black bears. they are nearly explosive in nature. both bears died, but only do to perfect shot placement. neither round exited, ranges both in the 150yrd-ish. largest peice of bullet I found weighed less then 30grs. I would NOT use them.
 
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